Models were made on the site by all and sundry to represent the star players. Much like this site does with missing models from armies.

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Heh, got my BB team of ebay. I bought a bunch of warhammer 5th Ed sauri and skinks and intend to convert the lot. Cost me a fifth of what GW charges for their teams. Now, who are they going to go bully for that?

I can see that they don't want other companies selling miniatures for their game, but come on. They want to stop people from discussing suitable proxies? I mean, sure it says they don't want official statements from companies, but what's to stop a company from having an unofficial forum account?

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One chap is suggesting putting videos on youtube detailing gw armies for 40k and fantasy made with other companies models, paying special attention to the figures they don't produce, then emailing them the links

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Maybe I am mis-interpreting this. When GW sent around C&D letters with the complaint about IP in the URL or donate buttons, I could kind of see their point, but this seems strange.

Are they really saying that they have dropped these games and wont produce the miniatures, but that they will hunt down anyone who produces something that could fill the gap that they created?

Are they then saying that they know that they dont have a single legal right - since most companies produce miniatures for different games - and that they have no legal leg to stand on, but if a fan of their game discusses the use of a miniature from a different company on a forum which is totally unassociated with GW (since GW cut forum support as well), they will pull their own rules out of spite? Seriously?  

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I'm thinking maybe this site is a factor

http://www.impactminiatures.com/index.php?option=home

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Their figures and teams are produced to support their game elfball.

If anyone is using their figures to play Bloodbowl I'd expect a visit from the game police any day now  

Funny that the man that owns that business is helping GW with all their rules. Actually it was he that recieved the advise after gaining approval for the v6.0 rules.

Galak has been very careful not to sell his merchandise in line with Blood Bowl in fear of being given a C&D.

In reality, it are the backyard and new scuptors coming up that are on the forums making great miniatures that are the target for GW at the moment. I believe the French & Spanish scuptors are producing some fantastic minis that have caught GW's eyes

But I guess you are correct in part TRC. It is hard to see how Impact does not have some form of (dare I say it) impact on GW actions...

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Though apparently a mere million pounds will get him the right to make the old OOP blood bowl models

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But, GW doesnt own any kind of copyright on Fantasy Football type games. We could take this to reductio ad absurdum levels.... Does this mean that any manufacturer making Fantasy Dwarves and Elves for their own Fantasy game are not allowed because these figures might be used in WHFB?

GW have a problem, as has been stated, with 'hobby casters' who dont have a business, see a hole in their GW army and make a small batch of figures to fill it.

But, to legally have issues with this, GW would need to prove that the miniature was produced expressly to fill that niche hole, and - in effect - take sales from potential GW miniatures in the future. Clearly, this is almost impossible to prove, so they are instead throwing teddy out of the pram and trimming the rules to cut out miniatures that they dont support.

(It would be interesting to see this done with Epic.... "Right, we are going to cut official rules support for the miniatures we dont produce, so the rules for Necrons are going to be unofficia..... oh!")

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Maybe there should be an agreement to sign up to these forums that if you work for GW, you abide by the fact that you will not report anything back to them, nor can you take action against members on the forum. With such an agreement, would they have a legal footing to go after people? In effect, they are breaking an agreement (much like they force people to do in providing ideas), that should see them liable?

I have no idea what I am talking about, do I?    

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Frogbear: That'd just make us look suspicious... plus you don't need to sign up to the forum to read the forum.

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I don't think disclaimers like that would be legally effective. At least not under UK/Aus law. At least... based on my vague recollections of tort law.

I think that a disclaimer stating that 'we are doing something bad, but if you tick this box you cant use it in a court of law' is on fairly shakey ground!  

Besides, guys, there seems to be a general attitude of 'I hope we dont get caught'. In actual fact, GW are welcome to take a look around, as we havent done anything wrong at all, which is one reason we have not had a Christmas card from GW legal.

Some miniatures may be made for personal use here, but any threads which suggest the sale of these have been closed and/or deleted. Miniatures for personal use are not endorsed by this site, and I am entirely unable to stop people doing so in their own home, and the act of making miniatures for personal use is not illegal. If GW legal find somewhere that I have missed any implication of sales (I am unable to check every single thread, every single day) then I will apologise and close/delete that thread too. But the position of this site regarding casting miniatures to profit from GWs IP is fairly clear and consistant.

Any rules development here is different from that being discussed for Blood Bowl. Where Blood Bowl is attempting to fill model voids where rules exist, we are actually doing things the other way around, and saying 'buy more GW minis', here are some rules to help you spend money.

In addition to this, we have certain email exchanges prmoting the use of this site for rules development from GW themselves.

The site has been around for a couple of years, and our sister site was started in April 2001 (!) and we have never had any problems with GW legal at all.

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