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| Quote (asaura @ 27 Nov. 2005 (14:21)) | | This is where we disagree, then. IMO, 2-3 is significantly less than 3-7. Additionally, I don't care what is the unit size in 40K, nor do I care if Obliterators have 2 wounds in 40K. Those facts are relevant in 40K and only useful as starting points for Epic. In this specific case, I am not aware of any fluff reasons for the three-models max unit size in 40K. It sounds like a play balance thing. Ditto for 2 wounds. I realize that 2 wounds is an interesting mechanic in 40K, but it need not show up at Epic level. |
2-3 isn't that much less than 3-7... indeed, at certain points, they're exactly the same (afterall, 3 on a stand that can be based 2-3 is identical to 3 on a stand that can be based 3-7). At the other extremes, there's a big difference, but the difference isn't at all as vast as you seem to think. But that's not really the point.
The point I was making was that, in terms of deployment, individual resilience and usage, Obliterators aren't that different from Crisis or Broadside suits. That was how they were designed, and this was obviously done for a reason in both cases. Tough heavy infantry to provide heavy firepower. The same arguments apply equally to either Obliterators or Battlesuits - the only reason battlesuits are based 2-3 is because someone decided they should be, and the same notion could be just as easily applied to Obliterators should anyone feel that way inclined.
And, to be quite honest, this seems like an exercise in pedantry on your part. I thought the purpose of having infantry stands was to remove the need to keep track of individual infantrymen... what you're suggesting requires us to account for how many warriors comprise a stand when designing it, when surely that's a matter of modelmaking aesthetics and personal taste - you put as many models as looks good on the base.
And, going down this line of reasoning leads to a whole cascade of rationalisations - afterall, Bikes and Jetbikes are bigger and more resilient than infantry, and are based fewer to a stand, so why not treat them as LV as well... My personal feeling is to let Anti-tank weapons deal with tanks, and leave the infantrymen in powered suits as infantry.
I'd rather not base comparisons on areas where the 40k rules are flawed, but we do have to start from somewhere, and units with similar roles and natures are, to my mind, a good place to start. In this case, Obliterators seem to be the closest comparable unit, being of roughly equivalent size, resilience, purpose, firepower and available quantity. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't one of the design concepts that's been running through all the work done on Epic Armageddon to work with what's established first, and make new concepts only when you need to?
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