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Post subject: Basing Bikes / Cavalry, How?  Posted: Mon May 19, 2003 6:08 pm |
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I base 2 on a 20x20, cuz all my old stuff is that way. I have some others that I bought second hand on 20x40 bases, but I think I'm going to cut them off and start over.
I have started putting bike/cav commanders 3 on a 20x40, though. I like the ability to add a bit of variety to the commanders.
As far as basing materials, craft sticks (i.e. popsicle sticks) work great and they are super cheap. I bought a bag of them that are 3/4 inch wide (look like tongue depressors), which is almost perfect (~19mm). You can measure the length you want and cut them with snips for nice thin, sturdy wooden bases. With a sealer coat of primer, superglue sticks just fine.
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Chris
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Post subject: Basing Bikes / Cavalry, How? Posted: Mon May 19, 2003 7:48 pm |
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I guess basing two you get more from on sprue. Sound idea, but I think basing three come from the bigger 40k background, Codex Space Marnes and the likes...
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signius
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Post subject: Basing Bikes / Cavalry, How? Posted: Tue May 20, 2003 12:11 am |
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I personally mount the whole detachment on one base. I use evergreen modeling co's styrene to make my bases. I cut them in different configs.
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Post subject: Basing Bikes / Cavalry, How? Posted: Tue May 20, 2003 5:47 am |
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Gandalf,
4 or more dets. = a "Battle", each "Battle" is lead by a separate champion stand or Deamon Prince as the overall Battle Commander. Think of a Battle (we changed the name to Chaos Legion - it was less confusing), like an Ork Warband.
So, each SM det. has a command stand and there is one overall command stand for that Battle.
CSM - 350, ?
Land Raiders - 2 for 350. ?
For Riders, all 3 types, I mentioned above how we based them, and we put them in dets. of 5 stands each. Andy's rules left something to be desired. So we took some ideas from SM2, because of that.
We based Minotaurs 5 per Cavalry base and Trolls individually, but 5 per base would work too. ?
Back to leaders, a "Battle" is lead by a Champ. stand or D/Prince, a Horde is commanded by a D/Prince or Greater Deamon. ?
We look at those like SM Battalion Cdrs and Regt. Cdrs, and played the rules to ?reflect that. ?
We added Primarchs to the command structure based on SM2. ?
The SM1 Chaos rules needed a lot of fine-tuning ... as you are seeing ... 
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Post subject: Basing Bikes / Cavalry, How? Posted: Tue May 20, 2003 8:58 pm |
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| Quote (Gandalf the Grey @ 19 2003 May,09:28) | | LOL! My Dad used to tell me he played Army Men with clothes pins as a kid, and I am starting to appreciate what he meant, haha. |
When I was small my father helped me take a batch of the old style (one solid piece) clothes pins and cut a small part off the base to make then flat so they would stand up. We then took some paint and made two different "squads" based on Red and Blue. I played with those quite a bit.
How simple it was back then...
Oh well, back to the here and now :-)
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Post subject: Basing Bikes / Cavalry, How? Posted: Tue May 20, 2003 9:41 pm |
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| Quote (dafrca @ 20 2003 May,20:58) | | Quote (Gandalf the Grey @ 19 2003 May,09:28) | | LOL! My Dad used to tell me he played Army Men with clothes pins as a kid, and I am starting to appreciate what he meant, haha. |
When I was small my father helped me take a batch of the old style (one solid piece) clothes pins and cut a small part off the base to make then flat so they would stand up. We then took some paint and made two different "squads" based on Red and Blue. I played with those quite a bit.
How simple it was back then...
Oh well, back to the here and now :-)
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What do you mean back then. Check out the figures on my web page. these are made from matchhsticks and hair curlers...heheheh
http://www.angelfire.com/games4/bobsgam ... urlers.htm
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Post subject: Basing Bikes / Cavalry, How? Posted: Wed May 21, 2003 4:31 am |
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Bob,
That's simply amazing!! ?
Welcome aboard!!! ?
As I said, from looking at your DS/GZG site, you truly are an experienced modeler and gamer. Oh yes, I almost forgot, on Flintstone Gaming Night, we wear loin cloths made of fur, put sticks in our hair and carry stones. On Jetson Night we wrap ourselves in tin foil and put large fish bowls on our heads!
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signius
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Post subject: Basing Bikes / Cavalry, How? Posted: Wed May 21, 2003 8:38 am |
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This topic has hot my wheels turning. I have always made my own bases for myself with plastic bits. Now, I am going for something a little more ambitious.
I have sculpted a few bases for myself out of epoxy resin which I will begin casting for myself and any interested parties. ?
I am making bases with and without the slots for troops. I have different slot sizes. 40k size troops, bikes and old metal robots were used to stamp the slots. I also have plans to remake the old Warlord Titan bases with feet preattatched. I may also do this for the other odd titan types since the foot is the same. I will let you know how it goes and will post my progress here. It is a venture that I am taking on out of desire for half decent bases in the scales that we play in. Wish me luck. ?
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Post subject: Basing Bikes / Cavalry, How? Posted: Wed May 21, 2003 1:14 pm |
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-Nice stuff Bob, very interesting.. 
Good luck with your plans Signius- Is it 2-part epoxy, like Green Stuff you are using? 
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Post subject: Basing Bikes / Cavalry, How? Posted: Wed May 21, 2003 9:00 pm |
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| Quote (stormseer @ 21 2003 May,05:14) | | Good luck with your plans Signius- Is it 2-part epoxy, like Green Stuff you are using? |
I use Magic Sculp. I like it far better for making my bases, crater, rocks ect... It is soft and acts more like clay. It can even be smoothed with water. All of the other two part materials I have used, so far, have been hard and rubbery.
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Post subject: Basing Bikes / Cavalry, How? Posted: Thu May 22, 2003 11:04 am |
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Yeah, Green stuff and similar products do have the rubbery problem- I have been using kids plastercine (sp?), covered in superglue or PVA to build up and contour my bases, craters etc... ...it works better and is far cheaper!
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Post subject: Basing Bikes / Cavalry, How? Posted: Sun May 25, 2003 8:06 am |
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Has anyone tried making their bikes removable so you can have 2 or 3 bike stands?
Shalom,
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