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My personal sculpting "challenge"
Drasannar	Post subject: My personal sculpting "challenge" Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 3:37 am
Brood Brother Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 3:18 pm Posts: 40	OK, here are the "other children", as promised: I will adrees each in turn. Please note that, due to slightly varying distances at which they were taken, the pics, unlike the sculpts, are not in scale with each other, not even necessarily with regard to different parts of the same miniature. As a rule of thumb: If they are parts of one miniature and the background looks very similar, chances are they were part of the same shot and are in scale with each other. I have numbered them 1 through 8. This is not the order in which I did them/started work on them, though by chance #8 is the latest. I will say a few words to each in turn: #1 This is supposed to be, when finished, an epic version of Deathwatch Brother Captain Artemis from Inquisitor. I am rather proud of the sword and the half rounded "shield", which he carries on one arm, in particular the skull on the latter. #2 This will be a true three-dimensional genestealer, rather than the sorry "cardboard cutout" that is the epic version (which has the advantage, however, of being in one piece - not that that matters to me;-)). As you see, there is still a lot of work to do here, particularly on the lims and the head, of which so far only the plastic armature is done (the protruding part in front is for the tongue). This one too, is based on the Inquisitor Version, which IMHO is the by far sexiest Genestealer design I have seen so far, the head in particular looks mean (I think the new 40k one is not so great). As a side note: #1 and#2 were originally intended for a small diorama, to enter the open category of the Epic painting competition 2004, but didn't get finished due to University work really kicking in that semester. #3 An Eldar Ranger. My favourite piece of those. Which, ironically is why it took so long just to reach just that stage (which really is not much). I want to make sure this one looks really great. I am rather proud of that small triangle pendat on the chest, which took forever to make out of *really* small plastic strips - putty just didn't do it (unfortunately the pic is rather blurry, but ist was the best of about 10 tries). Also notice the small pouch on his right and the fact that the sword-hand is actually in proper (i.e. non-heroic !) scale with the rest. #4 A Tau Water Caste Ambassador, again like #1-3 from Inquisitor. Not much done yet, just the main body and the lower part of the drone (which is not a normal gun drone btw). Hard to make out in the pic, but you might notice the Tau insignia on the necklace. in case you wonder why the color looks so strange: This is due to the lighting, the sculpt is not made from some other kind of putty. It is a regular Green Stuff-Milliput mix, the kind I generally use (Though I just ordered some brown stuff [wasn't able until recently, as I didn't have a cerdit card before], since I have heard a lot of positive comments on that). And yes, at that time I was very much inspired by Inquisitor models ;-) #5 This one is really old. My oldest unfinished sculpt, probably never to get finished either. I mainly put it up to illustrate how much inferior Green Stuff is to a Green Stuff-Milliput mix, in my opinion. You can do much more hard sculpting on the latter, which nets better definition and smoothness. This miniature was supposed to be an Eldar Fire Dragon Special Character with a nice fire axe etc. But as I said it is unlikely to ever recieve further attention. #6 Now we get to the *really* old stuff. So old that it is even *finished* and also *painted* (you may gasp in horror now ;-)). It's a Harlequin Shadow Seer. I did it just before leaving home for my 9 months of military service, which kinda put a halt to any sculpting/painting etc. for that time. I am very satisfied with how the gems and the face mirror turned out. They are actually blended, which is hard to see in the pics (except fo the face). Same for the blade. On the other hand, just looking at that massive area of gold almost makes me go blind now... #7 This is (obviously, I hope) a Techpriest, done at the same time as the Harlequin. The mechadendrites are made of wire, with grooves carefully cut in them. The claw is made from plastic and Green Stuff and the bolter is from some Imperial mini (I don't do that anymore, but back then I sometimes used GW bits).# The paint job is nothing special. It was supposed to look rusty, grimy and dirty, and well, it does. #8 [again the color is due to light, not putty]. The lower body of a Necron destroyer/hevy destroyer. You can't really see that in the image, but most of it is plastic, not putty, which means that, in light of recent experiences (see last post ^^), I had better be careful when accelerating curing... You might notice (I certainly hope you do ;-)) that the body shape (if not all details) is quite symmetrical. This was achieved by glueing the two halves that would later make the basic armature together at one edge and then cutting/sanding/filing them both in one go. Well, that's it. Apart from these pieces there really isn't much more. A few old pieces that are not worth displaying and some rudimentary WIP pieces (really just (parts of) the armatures of some IG (based on Inquisitor again)). Now, if you'll excuse me, I will just drop into bed for a nice 4 hours of sleep;-) Hopefully I will be able to start the promised sculpting thread by tomorrow (no, wait, that's "today" actually...;-)) evening. Cheers, Drasannar _________________ "...and they taught me terror. How to use it and how to face it."
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Legion 4	Post subject: My personal sculpting "challenge" Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 5:37 am
Brood Brother Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 5:13 pm Posts: 36989 Location: Ohio - USA	Great Stuff !!! _________________ Legion 4 "Cry Havoc, and let slip the Dogs of War !" ... "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
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vanvlak	Post subject: My personal sculpting "challenge" Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 9:30 am
Brood Brother Joined: Fri Oct 31, 2003 7:52 am Posts: 10348 Location: Malta	Techpriest! Want!!!!!! Incredible work Drasannar! You have oodles of talent in this sculpting job. Great, great work. _________________ Back from oblivion (again)?
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Justiniel	Post subject: My personal sculpting "challenge" Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:13 am
Brood Brother Joined: Mon Apr 26, 2004 8:59 am Posts: 3280 Location: Holywood, Northern Ireland	Stunned silence............. half an hour later the wants start to creep in These are incredible, I wish I had that talent, keep it up. _________________ I'm involved in Nunnery Practice My latest Blog http://www.players.tacticalwargames.net ... p?blogId=8
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TuffSkull	Post subject: My personal sculpting "challenge" Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:19 am
Brood Brother Joined: Tue Feb 25, 2003 11:49 am Posts: 2830 Location: South East UK	Once again, superb work. All pictures have been saved to my "inspirational models" folder & I'm sure will be referenced soon enough One questions - How actual workingtime did you put into the SoB? _________________ Cheers, Paul "TuffSkull" T. http://hobbybrush.com - My New Website, with thousands of painted Mini Pics :) http://hobbybrush.blogspot.com - My Hobby Blog TuffSkull's notepad- My Old Blog on Wargames Wiki.
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dysartes	Post subject: My personal sculpting "challenge" Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:39 am
Brood Brother Joined: Mon Nov 08, 2004 12:16 pm Posts: 908	Some people needa killin'...... Seriously, they're incredible. _________________ The forgotten Champion - AMTL, baby! Dysartes.com - Resources for the Modern Wargamer - Last updated: December 2004 - Next Update: In Progress Sentinels are just young titans that haven't grown up yet!
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Mojarn Piett	Post subject: My personal sculpting "challenge" Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:28 am
Brood Brother Joined: Fri Feb 14, 2003 7:35 am Posts: 5455 Location: Finland	\ECHO ON \repeat everything said above \ECHO OFF   You SURE you can't cram any more detail on the, um, 2mm bolter?       _________________ I don't know and I let who care. -J.S.
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stormseer	Post subject: My personal sculpting "challenge" Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:28 am
Brood Brother Joined: Fri Feb 14, 2003 9:52 pm Posts: 4598 Location: Suffolk, UK.	I can only reiterate what I said before....   You have a clear talent, the SoB is incredible, and the other pieces are just as fantastic (I'm itching to see the Necron Destroyer finished!).... The Ranger and Genestealer are also amazing. Too Good.   _________________ www.darkrealmminiatures.com
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Warmaster Nice	Post subject: My personal sculpting "challenge" Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:53 am
Brood Brother Joined: Tue Sep 30, 2003 9:15 pm Posts: 7948 Location: Denmark	Well what can I add to what's allready been said? Simply stunning Forge world sure better hire you if they know what's good for them Cheers! _________________ Sofa General Nobody expects the Inquisition!!! http://theepiclounge.wordpress.com/
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Legion 4	Post subject: My personal sculpting "challenge" Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 6:16 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 5:13 pm Posts: 36989 Location: Ohio - USA	Contact F/W !   _________________ Legion 4 "Cry Havoc, and let slip the Dogs of War !" ... "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
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stormseer	Post subject: My personal sculpting "challenge" Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 6:44 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Fri Feb 14, 2003 9:52 pm Posts: 4598 Location: Suffolk, UK.	Make sure you insist on only doing Epic pieces though.... _________________ www.darkrealmminiatures.com
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Drasannar	Post subject: My personal sculpting "challenge" Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 9:31 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 3:18 pm Posts: 40	Hi guys. Thanks for all the nice comments ! Techpriest! Want!!!!!! Well, maybe I'll do another one sometime (not in the very near future though). If so, that one will likely be castable... One questions - How actual workingtime did you put into the SoB?

Difficult to say, since I usually do some other stuff inbetween sculpting to relax my eyes, hands and back. I also sometimes spend minutes just looking at a piece or the source images, where I don't do any actual sculpting, and of course parts have to cure inbetween.
But whatever way you look at it, it was definitely *too much*.
I'm not a very fast sculptor unfortunately, mostly since I tend to spend hours one some very tiny detail to get it absolutely perfect, only to finally ruin it, scrap it and start over (in this case for example: the studs, which I removed altogether after spending half a day on them, the bolter magazine, the sleeves, parts of the backpack, and some more...).
I suppose if you count the time I spent sitting at my desk not occupied with anything non-sculpting related, it probably comes to a minimum of 36 hours straight, not counting the work on the studs since they are not ?part of the finished mini anymore.

(I'm itching to see the Necron Destroyer finished!)

This might be one of the next pieces to see some work, but at the moment I'm thinking of doing the Tau first, since he is (hopefully!) not much work, not having all that much intricate detail...
And I would also like to finish that Stealer sometime, and then place it next to one of the plastic ones .

Forge world sure better hire you if they know what's good for them
Contact F/W !

If you are truly serious about those comments, I might really do that. But not before I can show some work samples of the same quality as the sister without the proportions being slightly off.
Probably I would also have to improve my working speed before I could even think of that.

Make sure you insist on only doing Epic pieces though....

Don't worry, I really don't have much experience with anything else anyway... (If it ever comes to that, that is...but one can dream, can one not?)

Btw, I'm just brainstorming for the post on sculpting tools etc right now. Hopefully I will get to do that too tonight.

Cheers,

Drasannar