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Tital Legion Playtest List
nealhunt
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 3:57 pm 
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Dafrca:  I just want to thank you for the work you are doing on the playtest board.

You know I'm pretty hardcore about that stuff, and I find myself unable to wade through all that.  Cheers to you for the effort you must be putting into it.

I hope that when the list gets a JJ review and posted to the vault that some of the insane amount of alternative proposals go away. :oo

Thanks again.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 5:37 pm 
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INdeed! :O  I gave up trying to folow all those threads months ago!
I guess I'm just not playtest material a I really don't like to argue on for ages about details, if this and that is fair or trying to make sense of all the insane ammount of numbercrunching! :p
I just have a few unitlls I'd like to see in the list and a few ideas how they could be included. Anything beyond that is not really my cup of tea.

Thanks for your efforts Daf. It is crazy that the AM/TL forum is growing bigger than the painting/modelling forum and you find the time to not only read, but also make sense of it all.

Cheers! :)

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 7:06 pm 
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Quote (nealhunt @ 12 2005 Jan.,14:57)
Dafrca: ?I just want to thank you for the work you are doing on the playtest board.

Indeed- and to echo WMN, I have found it hard to keep up with all of the long threads on unit selection and weapon stats.

I am sure that JJ will have appreciated the sheer amount of hard work that you have put in to getting a first draft playtest list up.

Cheers

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:45 am 
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Hear, hear, keep up the good work Dafrca. I've only skimmed through the 'finalised' list periodically rather than wade through the discussions, it's just too much work for me!

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:38 am 
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Quote (nealhunt @ 12 2005 Jan.,14:57)
I hope that when the list gets a JJ review and posted to the vault that some of the insane amount of alternative proposals go away. :oo

Just out of interest, neal, what do you think falls under the heading of "more insane proposals"?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 4:41 pm 
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I referred to an insane amount of proposals, not to insane proposals. ?Most of the proposals themselves make at least a modicum of sense.

Unfortunately, the sheer volume of the proposals is (for me, anyway) preventing meaningful discussion. ?Every thread rapidly generates discussion on 2 to 3 additional alternative proposals. ?It's not uncommon for discussion to degenerate into "My version!" ?"No, my version!" with very little progress being made.

This is not to be derogatory to anyone who is participating. ?They are polite, sincere, and generally have good ideas and solid arguments. ?It's just very a chaotic process and does not seem to be productive.

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BTW, how do I go edit the title of this thread so I can fix that typo?




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Ive said a few times in the AMTL section that it is quite confusing...I get pretty lost but Im determined to wade through it. Myself and a couple of others (Dysartes comes to mind   :;): ) have been trying to shift the discussion to a slightly 'broader' view, so that we dont get so bogged down in the details.

Progress is being made, and Ive certainly started to follow stuff and feel some things were being resolved recently...but in the last 24 hours (which sounds daft even as I write it) there seem to be a load of new topics that are gonna take a while to digest and get in to...

In response to the sheer number of proposals nealhunt...what Ive found is that actually making your opinion a proposal is the best way to get it acknowledged and responded to. It kinda logs it as an 'event' almost, that people actually see, rather than comments on someone else's work, which can get lost...but I will certainly grant it can get a little out of hand at times... :)

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 5:31 pm 
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Quote (nealhunt @ 13 2005 Jan.,15:41)
BTW, how do I go edit the title of this thread so I can fix that typo?

You need to use the 'Edit this Topic' link at the bottom of thepage, rather than the usual edit button on the post.  :-:

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Reaversbane:  I understand that.  It just wears me out.  No worries, though.  I really think it will be more "stable" (for lack of a better term) once there is a playtest list posted.

BTW, you can just call me Neal instead of using the screen name.


Cybershadow:  I don't see it.  I see track, email, and print, and down at the very bottom in the Topic Options, it says "Close this topic."  Am I just blind?

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Do you need to be a moderator to edit topic titles?

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I agree that with so many suggestions floating arround the only thing left to do now is to hand it over to Jervis and let him go through it. The result will probably tick a bunch of people off because their suggestions weren't used but in the end the playtest board is their to help the game designers develop ideas, NOT to tell Jervis how he should make his game.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:44 am 
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First I want to thank those who voiced support. Yes it is a job far more involved then I understood it to be.

Neil is right, it is not that any one idea or point of view is insane, it is the volume that makes it hard sometimes. Also there are one or two people who post their point of view many times, thus creating the illusion there is support for their ideas. I must filter through a lot of stuff. Further, there are some who argue with both sides. This is hard as well.

Jervis has asked me to help pull a list together. If I understood him, the idea is we help get a basic "Start". Then he will tweak it to suit his point of view. Then we place it out for the general public on the vault. The plan is after a while it will take shape into the list that will be published.

I figure my role is to help organize the ideas and try and build toward that first basic list using Jervis' guidance. It has not been easy, that is for sure.  :(

But the group of guys have been nice for the most part. There has been almost no flame wars and the ideas have been solid.  :cool:

I look forward to seeing what Jervis comes up with from our efforts.  :laugh:

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:31 am 
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Yes much Kudos to you on this dafrca! Like neal I am overwhelmed by most of it... pretty much i have decided that i have to be realistic about my time limitations and just restrict my involvemnt to helping Maksim with the nids... speaking of which I must pop over and see what is happening on that front ???

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 3:14 pm 
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Great stuff, Daf !!! Good work ! :)

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