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Post subject: Woe be da Orkz!  Posted: Wed May 07, 2003 8:30 pm |
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Hi!
I agree with both, GW AUS seems to be into the attitude of "if it ain't warhammer or 40k dont bother me".
What I dont understand is if they are all the same company, how can one branch decide to shaft a game that has not come out? I mean its like Microsofts overseas divisions refusing to sell windows XP, its very odd.
Thanks for the exact WD issue stormseer, I'll remember it. Is there any way I can get a scanned copy of it? I remember he got ripped quite a bit online after that WD piece......
But seriously though, has anyone heard ANY GW bigwig being involved in epic A? Granted that not having Gavin involved is definately a blessing, but Chambers wasn't too bad (perhaps not too good either but thats another topic). When we describe this as being "jervis's baby" we're not kidding, it seems he's pretty alone on this one. That sucks, can't GW have the decency to fully support one of its better game designers?
You gotta feel for the guy, there is only so much he can do alone.
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Post subject: Woe be da Orkz! Posted: Wed May 07, 2003 8:43 pm |
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| Quote (primarch @ 07 2003 May,12:30) | | What I dont understand is if they are all the same company |
They are an independent company. As is GW Canada and GW US.
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Post subject: Woe be da Orkz! Posted: Wed May 07, 2003 11:14 pm |
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Hi!
Yes indeed, a win-win situation.
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Post subject: Woe be da Orkz! Posted: Wed May 07, 2003 11:26 pm |
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| Quote (pixelgeek @ 08 2003 May,03:18) | | Quote (primarch @ 07 2003 May,07:35) | | GW AUS, the aussies will ONLY be seeing this game through overseas orders, GW AUS will not be distributing this game. Isn't that nice? What sort of message is this sending? |
GW Aus also doesn't appear to like Warmaster very much either as I have heard horror stories about the lack of support for that game in Australia.
I think that GW Aus just wants to stock 40K and WFB and ignore the Fanatic games. |
I can tell you from bitter personal experience in 3 different Sydney stores, that their policy is that you cant join their group unless you have a substantial 40k, WFB or LOTR army. The only other game they stock is Mordeheim as apparently it seels well here.
Now I understand they are a buisness as we've been discussing here and in other threads, but when you are told you arent welcome to play epic int he store as nobody is interested in it, I get a bit shirty. Its not like I'm not playing a GW product.
GW Aus, like all the others, is a linked but independant company. They have already stated that apart form the 4 games listed above, they will not import the stock into the country, not even for Mail Order sales.
That means for us Aussies playing BFG, Epic, Warmaster or anything else besides, you have to order from overseas, pay extra for shipping and wiat upto 3 months.
I dont want to sound like a whinging old bloke, but its my hobby too and my money along the way is as good as anybody elses.
I will support EA when it comes out and I have enjoyed playtesting it- it has revived an old game for me and brought back some great memories. As we have seen more plastics are coming as well. But unless GW Aus changes its mind, my purchases and support in stores will be far less than I would wish, if only because this hobby will become even more uneconomical.
And we wouldn't want Kitty to starve would we L4? 
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Post subject: Woe be da Orkz! Posted: Wed May 07, 2003 11:53 pm |
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Wow. Telling you not to show up, even though you plan to play GW is pretty crappy. I guess if they aren't going to stock it, it's a waste of time and space for them, though.
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Post subject: Woe be da Orkz! Posted: Thu May 08, 2003 12:16 am |
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| Quote (nealhunt @ 07 2003 May,15:53) | | I guess if they aren't going to stock it, it's a waste of time and space for them, though. |
Sure is but it makes you wonder why they won't even try the game out?
Maybe shipping to Australia is enough of a pain in the ass that it isn't worht the risk to try out other games?
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Post subject: Woe be da Orkz! Posted: Thu May 08, 2003 12:25 am |
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Indeed I am most pleased with this news, and indeed it will help all the newbies....but now wonder why I did after all need to buy all those IG sprues recently.
eeew...3rd edition minis! 
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Post subject: Woe be da Orkz! Posted: Thu May 08, 2003 1:22 am |
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Hi!
The sad truth is that while GW AUS takes this attitude to ridiculous levels, I have seen it in GW stores in the US too. I have gotten from blank stares, to the condescending "oh, we dont carry that" from them. Its really hard for me to understand how a company can permit its stores (or in the sace of GW AUS its management) to have such a blatant negative attitude towards ONE OF ITS OWN GAMES. We're not talking about a competitor, but a game made from the designers that make all the other games they sell. Mind boggling.
Its very important for a companies stores and employees to give a positive attitude and enthusiasm for its products. How do you expect a game to sell when the company employees tell you they dont play or want it in their store?
GW is GW's worst enemy.
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Post subject: Woe be da Orkz! Posted: Thu May 08, 2003 1:34 am |
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Is the reaction to this news just a cost issue? I can't really see that this makes any difference except that the figs will now be older models and all the new sculpts will be for special troops or units released since Epic 40K.
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Post subject: Woe be da Orkz! Posted: Thu May 08, 2003 2:42 am |
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Post subject: Woe be da Orkz! Posted: Thu May 08, 2003 3:06 am |
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Post subject: Woe be da Orkz! Posted: Thu May 08, 2003 3:34 am |
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This bit of information is indeed good news for all concerned no matter what their own personal reasons are; "cost" or otherwise. ?Plastics rule! This is definately a step in the right direction, and a very positive thing for the hobby as a whole.
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Post subject: Woe be da Orkz! Posted: Thu May 08, 2003 8:48 am |
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Don't be too harsh on Jervis, he is in an awkward situation at the moment. I think we can trust the plastics issue to be confirmed at least for SM, IG and Orks, the rest will depend upon the success of the game when it is released.
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Post subject: Woe be da Orkz! Posted: Thu May 08, 2003 10:44 am |
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Yeah, enough with the harshness peeps.
Our game system is being supported, I for one intend to buy three of everything they release (one to use, to for spares/replacments and one to enay ten years from now!  )
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Post subject: Woe be da Orkz! Posted: Thu May 08, 2003 10:47 am |
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| Quote (primarch @ 08 2003 May,01:22) | | The sad truth is that while GW AUS takes this attitude to ridiculous levels, I have seen it in GW stores in the US too. I have gotten from blank stares, to the condescending "oh, we dont carry that" from them. |
happens in the UK as well
when I go into my local UK stores and mention I play epic they look at me, and indicate that I am a "fanatic"...
actually the other day I went into my local GW shop top purchase Codex Daemonhunters (I know, I know, but I like the concept - though I really dislike the concept of Chaos...)
So there I was, and I thought, before I purchase I will browse and have a look at a few things in the flesh... when a red shirt came over
RS: Do you need any help there?
Me: No I'm fine, I'm just looking, thanks.
RS: Looking for anything in particular?
Me: No just having a browse.
RS: Which army are you looking for stuff in particular?
By this time I knew I wasn't going to get rid of him been polite and was tempted to walk out, so
Me: I'm not going to get rid of you am I!
at which point the Red Shirt walked away...
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I'm glad Kitty works over here 
! For a number of reasons ! 
) ?! I'm not saying this is a bad thing and I'm going to buy All the new models, metal or plastic. But if I would have told you a month ago that G/W was going to produce plastics again for Epic, you all would have thought I'd been listening to Baghdad Bob 