Dave wrote:
The key is this: the target formation gets to fire at interceptors if they passed into the target formation's AA range at any point during the interceptor's approach move. Additionally, aircraft allies of the target formation also get to fire at the interceptors as well but ONLY is the interceptor's END their approach move within AA range of the aircraft allies.
That's how it was ruled anyway, by Neil and the '09 rules update I believe (or maybe even before that).
Ok, but where it says that it is different for the defending unit from its allies in the conditions to fire (''at any point'' vs ''only at the end'' like you put it? I would like to know to tell others in the future but i do not see it. It specifies it with ground units that it can be if they pass at any point of their approach move and aircraft at the end, but i find nothing about differences between aircraft formation allies of the defender and defending aircraft formations, only between ground units and aircraft.
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Ground units that are armed with AA weapons can shoot at enemy aircraft as they move past them.
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All anti-aircraft and flak attacks (from any enemy aircraft formations that are within range at the end of the aircraft’s approach move and any enemy ground units with an AA value that were in range during the aircraft’s approach move)
Kyrt wrote:
Not sure I am following but I am wondering if perhaps the sentence order of point 3 is giving a wrong impression. Flak should pertain to ground units, anti-air is the weapon type (so both air and ground). Aircraft have AA weapons but they’re only flak when landed. Flak shouldn’t be limited to the end of the approach move, so is the intention to make landed aircraft a special type of flak, or is this point not really meant to refer to flak?
In my opinion i think it is clear on that point: It says that aircraft can only fire if intercepting or making flak attacks, so flak attacks are not only for ground units. It doesn't specify either if when on ground or air.
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Aircraft can shoot at other aircraft either when making a flak attack (see 4.2.4) or when attacking as part of an interception action.
But later it also says that landed aircraft count as a normal land unit, so it is not that its flak is special when landed but that it becomes like any other land unit's flak.
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Once landed, the aircraft is treated in all ways as a ground unit with a speed of 0
Or were you talking about another part?
Dave documents the approved lists, FAQ, rules not debating individual lists (at least here). Is there something incorrectly entered on those two formations in the TP or????
