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A Sad Moment in Epic History!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 11:11 pm 
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I get the feeling that GWUS  simply doesnt want to deal with Epic at all any more.  Very sad, and confusing, since selling stuff over the 'net is the cheapest method of doing so.  And yes, I weep over the bitz that I was hoping for to do some projects.....sigh. :(

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 11:22 pm 
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Stormseer, they yanked the archive shortly before epicA was released in the UK. I find it highly improbably that ALL molds were worn out AT THE SAME TIME. I think they are so used to dealing with "kiddies" nowadays that they forget there may be some adults that may like more sophisticated answers.....

Iblisdrax, its been my contention since Epic A was even being developed that support from some of the regional GW's that support would be lackluster or non-exsistant. GW has a very LONG memory of "failed" lines. GWUS got "bit" quite unfavorably with epic 40k and the loads of stock it had to "eat" after it tanked. We can all remember the great sales of 2-3 dollars blisters, which for a gamer is great, but for business it was bad.

I dont think GWUS or GWAUS for that matter really got over it. Long memories. For me the "clincher" was when it became clear that the game would not be simultaneously released with the UK. Thats unheard of in the annals of epic. Learning that it would mostly be MO only and that the retailing structure for independants was not only through a separate channel but at an inferior discount only ratifies what I knew all along...

...that in the US at least epic was going to be weakly supported.

I got to envy the UK though, they are getting the grade "A" service for this version of epic. Heck even Canada seems to be doing way better than GWUS as far as epic goes and its support.

I just hope that UK and Canada can carry the game enough to sustain its economic viability and it will be to them and their fans that the "epic ship" will owe its keeping afloat to.

Oh well, heres to GWUK and GWCAN and their success to supporting epic. The effort is appreciated.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 11:50 pm 
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Stormseer, they yanked the archive shortly before epicA was released in the UK. I find it highly improbably that ALL molds were worn out AT THE SAME TIME. I think they are so used to dealing with "kiddies" nowadays that they forget there may be some adults that may like more sophisticated answers.....


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-Precisely my point- why don't they just say; "Oh, the archive won't make us any money, so we won't bring it back..." ..instead of fobbing us off as they seem to be doing... :(

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Dont know why they do such things. I guess they are used to issueing "flaky" reasons.

Well, regardless, its a damn shame to lose that archive.... :(

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 12:19 am 
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Especially for people like me who don't have a bottomless bitz box like others.... :(

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Hi!

True, without the archive, conversions are hard to justify.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 6:09 am 
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Oh well ... I guess we shouldn't be surprised ... :(

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Hmm, if anything you'd expect GWUS to keep this stuff around, its not as if they can't afford it.

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G/W US sells what "sells" ... let's admit it ... Epic is very "small potatos" for G/W ... but I certainly don't like it ! :angry:

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Thats definately GWUS's approach, they aren't going out of their way for anything less than sales at the level of 40k or fantasy. All esle is of little importance.

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I believe the proper response is, "Indeed" ... ???

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:D  You know you'll reach your alloted "indeeds" too quickly if you use them too much.... :;):

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Sorry old boy ... won't happen again !!! :D

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Quote (stormseer @ 11 2004 June,15:50)
Stormseer, they yanked the archive shortly before epicA was released in the UK. I find it highly improbably that ALL molds were worn out AT THE SAME TIME. I think they are so used to dealing with "kiddies" nowadays that they forget there may be some adults that may like more sophisticated answers.....


Quite...
-Precisely my point- why don't they just say; "Oh, the archive won't make us any money, so we won't bring it back..." ..instead of fobbing us off as they seem to be doing... :(

Because that would require GWUS to show a level of maturity and honesty they will never have.  :L

When you look at how they hire and what they look for in an employee (I mean the business side) it is not such a shock that they make such dumb mistakes.

You know the saying GIGO.  

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It's all about the $$$ ! :(

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