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Hi!
As Jimbo mentioned, the plot thickens, in more ways than one.
This is a thread on the usenet regarding the retail contract that is being issued in the US, where:
1. GW is allowed to make unannouced, spontaneous inspections of your business to make sure you are portraying their products in the best possible light, and not displayed with competing products.
Surreal? Perhaps. Remember all that joking on what GW could? Send the inquisition to your doorstep? Judging from the above that is precisely what they intend on doing.
2. Also, time is 'not of the essence' in their product deliveries?
So when GW opens up a store nearby and you get hosed in "accidental" order mix up and late orders you have no recourse to complain.
3. There are also some curious instock clauses, one example being persistent reports of your store being out of stock of items can lead to your account being temp or permanently suspended.
Meaning you must buy all our games and new stuff, regardless on how crappy they are because if you dont we wont sell you ANYTHING.
These are some things Neal from the warstore shares with us. Note it is NOT his speculation, but things directly from a copy of the retail agreement that he has in his hands, so this is what GW INTENDS to do.
You can see the full thread on rec.games.miniatures.warhammer
How will it effect Epic A? In several ways, as a fanatic game only GW will sell it exculsively. Its not available through independent retailers or online (as Tom has already attested to in another thread), so exposure is limited to GW online mostly. Also, as others have mentioned GW AUS, will NOT carry it, it means the various "arms" of GW according to country will make its OWN desicions whether to stock or support it with the added "double wammie" that if you want it and you live in a country its not going to be supported by you can only order it from GW (no more internet deals remember?) at inflated prices. Add to this the very random and mixed nature of support from actual GW mail order trolls and GW stores which may or may not have it according to the managers whims and then you have a "killer" combination...literally!..and I dont mean that in a good way....
As far as I am concerned, this game is being killed before release by these "new" schemes. But thats nothing new for epic......:{
I have seldom seem such indigination as provoked from this latest plan, all forums, without exception have ever increasing threads on the subject, with reatilers and distributors, online dealers and more jumping in. There are a LOT of Pe'oed people out there.
If you think you can say something on the GW boards, think again, they are outright deleteing threads and banning authors with no explanation. I knew of this, but it seems many others have too (another thread on usenet). Just visit the GW forums and see the locked/deleted threads yourself. Basically the usual, "my way or the highway" prevails.
I can understand Maksim's discontent. I felt the same way when epic 40k came out, fortunately for me, I abandoned the "GW hobby" for netepic and other projects long ago and I have not looked back. There are tons of more worthy games and companies who desire and hope for your patronage, give them a look. Its a very liberating experience!
Also, while it is fun to bash GW (much fun!)  I think one should channel all that disappointment into positive routes, like more pictures and battle reports for this forum or just more gaming of any type because GW does not deserve much from you, not even feeling bummed out. Gaming is about fun, so go and have it, is a HOBBY after all.
The REAL hobby is a vibrant entertaining thing, if part of it looks "gangrenous" excise it an move on, there is more fun to be had elsewhere.
Primarch
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So, GW has started i on e-bay?! Can they do that? How is that leagal?
This just keeps getting weirder by the day ... Is Elvis, little gray aliens and Al Queda some how involved ? I'm confused more than usual ... 
