OK, not questions about the ork big guns but on some of the rules of larger weapons.

Firstly I remember reading a rule about this but now cant find it.... If I have two barrage weapons on a unit (well war engine in the squat colossus) with one being a macro weapon and one not how do I fire with this unit? (In this example both are 3BP). So I use one template for each weapon and then work out the results OR use two templates (because of a combined 6BP) with both using the macro rule OR use two templates with neither using the macro rule?

Secondly, a volcano cannon hits on a 2+. If I sustain fire does that mean I hit on a 1+ and automatically hit? If not (because a 1 always fails) have I been totally cheating with my marines by not rolling to activate them if they have no blast markers?

Thanks for any help.

When firing a barrage you can only claim an ability if all weapons firing have it, you may of course fire only the weapon with the ability, you MUST combine all BP weapons in a formation if firing them all, they cannot be fired separately

The volcano cannon will still miss on a 1, however the +1 bonus would cancel out any cover penalty due to terrain, hull down, shadowfield etc...

Int1+ troops DO activate automatically if they have no blast markers, activation rolls are not part of the 'rule of 1 and 6'

This also means a marine landing craft with 6+ blast markers cannot activate and will automatically stand down

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It still miss on a 1; However, it will hit targets in cover on a 2+ instead of a 3+.

From the FAQ, same would apply for MW or any special ability.
Section 2.2: Specialist Weapons
2.2.2 Disrupt
Q: If an Imperial Guard Artillery Co. contains Basilisks and Manticores (with the Disrupt ability) does a barrage fired from this formation use the Disrupt rules since not all of the units in it have the Disrupt ability?
A: Special Weapon abilities are only used if all the units firing have them. So if you wanted to use the Disrupt ability in this case you could only fire with the Manticores. A barrage that used both types of units would not have the Disrupt ability.

Don't worry, you haven't been cheating your opponent.

From the FAQ.
1.6.2 The Action Test
Q: When rolling for initiative to activate and order your formations, does a D6 roll of 1 automatically fail?
A: No. This can lead to certain formations automatically passing an initiative test. Space Marines, for example, will always pass a test unless modifiers apply to the roll, and Orks doing a double or charge action would pass automatically also. These advantages are built into the points values used in the Grand Tournament army lists, and you should take them into account when working out the forces used in a scenario.

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Interesting about the barrage and abilities with the MW it makes sense, although I would have thought you would still get the disrupt, so thanks for clearing that one up.

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Final thought about formations containing both Barrage and other weaponry. When shooting use the following process:-

1. Shoot the barrage weaponry, place template(s) and dice separately for each unit under the template(s).
   Place hit markers beside units that are hit
2. Shoot 'normal' weapons, allocating hits front to back to those units that have not already been hit by the barrage
3. Shoot any MW and TK weapons, leaving these hits to one side
4. Resolve all 'normal' hits identified against units, then allocate and resolve MW and TK hits

So in this case, shoot the barrage templates first, then shoot the volcano cannon, applying its hit after the Barrage hits are resolved.

You can use different colored dice to show who hits and the mods in a mixed Barrage. Like Green for TK and Red for MW, etc., ... for example ... just say'n ...

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i can attest (and Kyuss will back me up) on the multicolored dice approach. Funny how people seem to lose their fracking minds over that in games like Firestorm Armada though

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