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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 9:17 am 
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I dunno but Rick Priestly (Hallowed be thy name) gets an almighty bow from me for 'Mighty Empires'. Superb rules set!

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 10:26 am 
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Not to mention Warmaster... :)

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 12:08 pm 
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Which is also a SUPERB game - damn him (in a most reverent manner naturally) for not being a part of the EPIC design process :p

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 12:46 pm 
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..Warmaster is ace.. I might even have started collecting if I had enough money/time! ?:;):

BTW, who designed Man o' War? Rick Priestley? Or Jervis?

...iirc, a GW chap called Nigel Stillman did quite a bit of it... ?:oo

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 1:00 pm 
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They have proxies on the Warmaster mailing list - what would be good would be a Warmaster campaign run over Mighty Empires.... in fact Rick has just re released Mighty Empires (slightly cut down but not noticeably) for Warmaster.

Note that Mighty Empires is a free game for download!

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 1:59 pm 
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Quote (stormseer @ 11 2003 Dec.,11:46)
..Warmaster is ace.. I might even have started collecting if I had enough money/time! ?:;):

BTW, who designed Man o' War? Rick Priestley? Or Jervis?

...iirc, a GW chap called Nigel Stillman did quite a bit of it... ?:oo

Warmaster IS a great game, which unfortunately suffers from yet another local lack of players - just 2 others, one of whom has sold off his army incognitously. I have just one (as yet unpainted) army, Tomb Kings (bec. they're easiest to paint, and I was tired of Chaos - there was a lot of Epic/WHFB/40K/BFG Chaos in my past). Man 'o'War was great too, my full set of rules with supplements are much coveted! I have Skaven, Dwarf, Orc, Chaos and Bretonnian fleets, with a few other odds and ends. And guess what, it's my wife's favourite wargame, too. It's also the easiest game to prepare a board for too!  :cool:

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 8:25 pm 
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The Desert Ferrin got their second outing on Monday night - and this time things went a lot better!

I had no intention of playing this week, but because I'm lazy & the car hadnt been emptied since the previous monday, I happened to have the miniatures handy when I discovered last weeks intended opponent (who fell ill & missed last week) was there this week without a game - Bonus!

He didnt have his army with him, so we split the DF two ways for a quick game as we didnt have much time. It also meant that I got to learn a lot more about my chosen army since all the units on the board were from my force :D

His army:
Leman Russ Company (commissar)
SHT company - 3 baneblades (commissar)
Mechanised company (commissar) & support fire squad in chimeras
Sentinel Squadron

My Army:
Artillery company (9 Manticore) (commissar)
Mechanised Company (commissar) & support fire squad in chimeras
Sentinel Squadron
Bombard Battery
Basilisk Battery (commissar)

We decided that we'd do one definite defending force, whilst the other was more of a Fast (for IG) mecahnised assault force trying to overrun the still-loyal defences.

Setup
Noe: all "left/right" comments are from my perspective of the game.
Table was 4x4 - could have gone bigger, but we were after a quick game and smaller tables produce just that!
Scenics were placed in a mutually agreeable manner. I had two small hills withing 30cm of my table edge, on on the far right & one left of center. The middle of the board was pretty much open. On both sides about halfway down the board were small clumps of SMI & II era buildings. Finally, a large L shaped hill stood just off from his table edge in a center Right position, with just enough space behind it for him to hide 10 leman russ & three SHTs in turn 1.

I set up with the Mechanised company in my center, ready to react anywhere across the board. Beside them was the Basilisks, placed to act in a direct fire AT role from the center, with a good arc of fire to harass the Russ' and Baneblades.
My Sentinel squadron were acting as a garrisson for an objective on my righ flank, hiding behind the hill on which the objective stood. Behind them were the bombards.
On the left, the Manticore company sat behind a small hill ready to rain death.

His forces were set up with the Leman Russ & SHT companies to the center. The Mechanised company and Sentinels deployed to the left (from my view), with the sentinels acting to garrison the objective inthe buildings on the left.

the game
I won the first initiative role and decided to take full advantage of the latest setup rules (ie units setup on board &dont have to start with a move)  to try and give the Leman Russ an early pounding. 6 Manticore fired in barrage, but only took out 1 tank. However, it did inflict enough barrage points to keep me happy. In hindsight I should have shot at the Mech company to take out the inf still in their vehicles, but the early chance to have a go at the scary tank company got the better of me.
His mechanised company rushed forwards along with the sentinels & ended up staring down the racks of the manticores in just one movement! - whose idea was it to use a small table again? :-:
In response, I risked my flank to wheel my mechanised company to face the oncoming foe & defend the manticores. A double move & shoot a good portion of the units into range & LoS. It was risky as it opened their flank to the enemy, with the armour heading down the center towards them, but he would certainly have despatched of my arty in quick order in turn 2 without a bold move. Even with the minus 1 to hit I managed to inflict a decent number of casualties & the reultant blast markers would make it difficult for him to be effective in an assault.
His entire army rolled forward at scary pace, fulfilling their designation as the fast moving mechanised attackers. Even the baneblades tripple moved as I took in effective pot shots from across the board. My sentinels failed to activate & had to make do with a slow advance up the unprotected right table edge.  

Turn 2 & i managed to win the initiative again. Didnt take much to decide on the action - my mechanised infantry company moved forwards to get all guns into Los & they opened up on their opposing number, convincingly breaking them & saving the manticores! Yay!
Then the enemy armour started to extract some revenge as it advanced down the center towards the hill my dear infantry had just defended so gallantly. Suprisingly few casualties were actually taken, and in return I did manage to take out a couple of LRs with my basilisks & remaining 3 Manticores which hadnt fired last turn.

Turn three saw the Mechanised company regret their bravado & being broken by a hail of fire from the SHTs, Leman russ (on Marshall to loose some BMs)and some scary flashlites being shone in their general direction by the enemy sentinels. My army generally "redecorated their trousers" as the mass of armour beared down on them, with shooting being wholely ineffective - that re-roll for reinforced armour makes a hell of a big difference! I think I took down one more Leman Russ & 2 Damage points off a Baneblade in total that turn. The last move of the turn saw my sentinels bravely run up onto the hill near the enemy table edge to grab the objective there & generally shout "we're over here, look at us" in a hope of taking enemy eyes off of my main line for a moment.

Just to rub salt in the wounds, the enemy mechanised company rallied in the end phase whilst mine kept on running.

Turn four saw the effect of a full on armoured attack against unprotected artillery. He won the initiative and opened with a truly brilliant show of dice rolling as the remnants of his mechanised company managed to wipe out my Manticores in a single round of ranged shooting.
He retained the initiative & opened with his baneblades to great effect on my helpless Basilisks wiping them out with many a shot to spare.
All I could do in response was add a blast marker or two to the Tank company with my Bombards.
Embarassingly, hi sentinels saw off the shattered remains of my Mech. co. leaving half a dozen leman russ to turn around and take potshots at the Sentinels behind them.

Prior to that turn, only my Mechanised company had taken fire. By the end of that turn, all I had left on the board was 3 Bombards. Ouch......

It started well for me but ended in disaster, loosing 4-0 on the Victory conditions.

At the end of the day, it was a good fun, very fast, game that still managed toteach me a lot, both bout the game as a wholeand agood deal about the strengths and weaknesses of my varied units & how (not) to use them.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 6:05 am 
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So I think most of us know there's a Tau list, and Tau items from Forgeworld. So it came up in the SG board that in 40k the Tau have human forces made up of the survivors and descendants of Guard sent to fight the Tau or on worlds the Tau took from the Empire.

So I'm wondering if there's any indication of whether the Tau dislike of hand to hand is physical or cultural - from their 40k statlines, I'd assume it's cultural. At any rate, what I'm thinking of doing is using the old IG sprues to represent humans incorporated into the Tau. I suppose that, given long enough, they'd simply start being armed and trained as the Tau are, as I don't see them bothering to waste their time on crude Imperial manufactories, except to produce small things like sentinels or bikes.

It should provide some visual diversity from legions of Fire Warriors, and some nice background opportunities. The old Guard also look more sci-fi with their smooth armour plates and visored/full helmets. Anyways, I'm pretty much set on this, and will probably use the rules for fire warrior stands, and maybe convert some of the Forgeworld vehicles to have humans popping out of the turrets.

At any rate, I was just wondering what you all think would be suitable proxies for the bikes, roughriders and assault guard to be. The sentinels and robots can be crisis and broadside battlesuits. I was thinking maybe stealth suits for the bikes as there weren't any particular rules for their stealthiness in the list.

Thoughts, especially on background plausibility and basing? I might get the occasional pack of FW infantry, or more likely just expand when the Tau are actually released by SG. But vehicles/aircraft are a definate, if I ever get around to going to the battlebunker. Probably no Mantas or Orcas at the time, though.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 5:45 pm 
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The Tau Codex explains in detail why "the little Grays" stay away from Close Combat... of course with their superior weapons systems, why waste time with HTH!!! :laugh: ?

I have all the Epic F/W Tau with the new stuff on the way. Someone else talked about Tau/IG interface for gaming purposes... But I can't remember who? ?

As for me, I like the Tau & Kroot and will eventually field a complete army (without humies!). :;):

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 10:43 pm 
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Fair enough. I vaguely remembered the Tau codex saying something about how they did actually fight it out in brutal combat amongst themselves but then the ethereals showed up and made peace; but I've lost my codex.

Well, time to go get some of these famed Forgeworld minis I've been hearing about.  :D


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 5:48 am 
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Yes, some of the Tau Codex is in W/D issues too.  And even though they are a bit pricy, the F/W Epic Tau & Kroot are nice ...   :;):

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 7:22 am 
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I got a pack of Skyrays and Devilfish.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 7:33 pm 
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I ordered an Orca and Skyrays... still waiting... ??? ?

I have all the other F/W Epic Tau & Kroot! :;):

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 11:46 pm 
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Hi!

Do the Tau have warp travel?

If they don't, how can they be a viable empire?

The Imperium could just virus bomb their planets and wait a century or two then taking over.

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I believe they ally themselves with races that do... and that's how they get around. ?

Of course I could just ask one next time they land in my backyard... :L

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