I agree. Also a rookie. Just cannot understand the tactics of it. I built three, but that is just because they are the signature cool Nurgle unit. :-)

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I agree with Glyns advice on giving the GUO Disrupt and IC on the Vomit.

I also think that the plague tower should be cheaper since it's a really akwar unit to use.

I also realize i change my mind alot (but i guess that means i'm not to proud/stubborn to admit i'm wrong about stuff).

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What's the process for changing a unit already in an approved list? Does it require testing?

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I also struggle to see the role of this tower. Perhaps some of the more experienced players can advise.

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Yes. Solid advice based on experience would be great!

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I've been doing some testing on the Lost and the Damned Redux list but have never taken the Plague tower as I just can't see a useful way to make it a worthwhile inclusion. I'd certianly like to see discussions around potential changes for that at least.

I suppose slow siege towers have no role in EA. Maybe lower cost + lower range could help. I seem to recall a similar debate about the Ork battle/gunfortresses.

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I was actually looking at the Gunfortress as a guide for what the PT might be (with 30cm move).

On the other side of the coin, looking at other lists, there are a lot of WE transports that only move 15cm, so don't know if making this unit faster would go over very well.

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A lot of the strategy of WE transports, even when they are no faster than INF stands, is to enable barging and to provide 2xDC number of stands cover by hugging the engine itself.

I think the issue with the PT isn't the stats on their own as opposed to the fact there's better units for the price likely. I'd say play with the price first and/or list structure (for instance in LatD move it to transport as has been suggested by the illustrious SgtShellback). It's not a support formation.

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So how do we initiate a discussion that might lead to a change?

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I realise that it could be read as if I was promoting a speed increase, where as I was merely thinking of the WE transport similarities between PT and Battlefortresses.

I agree. Price reduction would be the easiest way to start dabbling. A bit sad, since it would do little in terms of explaining a viable tactics for this unit.

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I was wondering what a list with PTs as transports might look like, so here goes:

STIGMATUS COVEN [200]
(Chaos Undivided), Demagogue, 11 Cultists

STIGMATUS COVEN [200]
(Chaos Undivided), Demagogue, 11 Cultists
NURGLE PLAGUE TOWER [300]
Plague Tower

STIGMATUS COVEN [200]
(Chaos Undivided), Demagogue, 11 Cultists
NURGLE PLAGUE TOWER [300]
Plague Tower

ARTILLERY BATTERY [325]
4 Basilisks

ROUGH RIDER PLATOON [150]
6 Rough Riders

THUNDERBOLT FIGHTERS [150]
2 Thunderbolts

PLAGUE ZOMBIE INFESTATION [175]
3 + 2D6 Plague Zombie Units

An interesting list for sure, though less activations. I think my usual list for LatD usually has 10.

Any thoughts? Anyone want to try it out?

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I think maybe it could be a decent blitzguard if it gets a price decrease?

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I agree with Jimmy, having the war engine transport makes the formation that much tougher to hit (especially as infantry can hide behind it to avoid being seen) plus it can barge in an assault, still use FF in most cases, and soak up the first 6 hits with its 4+RA

that said, they are expensive for such a slow unit, I'd be in favour of a speed boost to 20cm to match the gorgon, maybe relaxing the fire arcs somewhat so it can shoot a little more effectively would be good too

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