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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:33 pm 
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Those are boss ideas Toco! :)

Deacon should be gearing up for them after he is done with Stygians, so I'll keep tabs on all these ideas and bring them up when he gets there.

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By the way, that's not a knock. Mordin was one of my all time favorite characters. :)


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None taken. XD I am surprised, I sound really aggressive. :o Maybe because I'm german :D

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:37 pm 
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Drones are hot in current modern warfare. So why not plug the scarce frogheads into cabled machines, and let their wifi connected drones fight for them? So it would be forgmen in the back of the army, under large force field generators, and the drones (or robots) fighting at the front ...

Just an idea ...

Edit: Now that I'm thinking of it, frogs are born in little small bulbs. "Dril" in Dutch ... You could incorporate these spheres into the designs. Bio-matter forcefields.


I hab similar thoughts. Something like a link network between the slann. The drone concept makes a lot of sense to me espacially if they are bio-engineered.
In the original fluff the slann are masters of genetical engineering and have altered the evolution of many races in the universe. Even taken some creatures from earth (the orangutan like race from old 40k fluff).

I like the idea of biological constructs mixed with their absurd high level tech. So everything has a organic feel. The problem with a link network and organical weapons is that is very similar to the tyranids. But if the rules are different enough it could work very well.

As there are only very few slanns left the army structure should reflect that. Few UNits that are powerfull but ridiculus expansive. So a very small army.

For example (No real army list just a basic structure :P):

Slann Engineers
The Engineers are the Backbone of the Slann race. The are building an intergalactic network between there minds. They funciton as an communication hub for the few slanns throughout the universe.
On the battlefoield they provide the communication between ground- and spaceforces and there homebase.
All Slanns are psykers (?) but the Engineers are using a spherical construct that further enhances their powers. With it they are able to evoke forces that can even destroy titans. But using this much power will reduce the mindlink to a mere whisper nothing more than a radio transmission. All local mindcommunication is focused in one engineer. This Slann is the local Mindhub that concentrates one cummunication with the mindnetwork. If this slann dies the communication to the off planet hubs is broken and a lot of the longrange suports is without information. And longrange Suport like Warpfolds are not longer possible.
When there is great danger to the slann, some engineers are fusing with there bigest bio-constructs. These machines are filled with enhancers, similar to the spheres, and give the fused slann abilitiys that can destroy entire armys alone. But this equals a suicide mission as using this powerr will destroy the consctruct and the slann alike. Only very few where able to survive the fusion and even less are able to use psy powers ever again.

Abilitys:
- Mindlink (connects all slann on the batlefiedl) - all slann can use the sight of all other slann units (overpowered?)
- Mindhub (only one slann per army can be the mindhub)
- Psy powers - some kind of support powers and one or to destructive powers
- Warp fold (only when mindhub is alive) - units/detachments can be teloported
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Slann Warriors
Some Slann are chosen to support the Engineers in battle. These Individuals are embedded into a powerfull Armor. These Suits are the best infantry the Slann can field and the only Slann that are trained for combat.
These warriors are highly adaptable and have the best equipment to their disposal.

Abilitys:
- Mindlink (connects all slann on the batlefiedl)
- lots of cool weapons

Constructs
These are biological engineered cyborg things. From infantry and tanks to titans.

Drones - Mostly cheap massproduced infantry/walker constructs

Skimmers - light tanks, assult constructs

Heavy Skimmers - Artillery and support units like shield generators

Flyers

Heavy Flyers

Titan Skimmers

Titan Flyers?



OK that were some Ideas in my mind. Haven't really thought about the non slann units. Some Ideas but will add that later.

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Drones are hot in current modern warfare. So why not plug the scarce frogheads into cabled machines, and let their wifi connected drones fight for them? So it would be forgmen in the back of the army, under large force field generators, and the drones (or robots) fighting at the front ...

Just an idea ...

Edit: Now that I'm thinking of it, frogs are born in little small bulbs. "Dril" in Dutch ... You could incorporate these spheres into the designs. Bio-matter forcefields.


I hab similar thoughts. Something like a link network between the slann. The drone concept makes a lot of sense to me espacially if they are bio-engineered.
In the original fluff the slann are masters of genetical engineering and have altered the evolution of many races in the universe. Even taken some creatures from earth (the orangutan like race from old 40k fluff).

I like the idea of biological constructs mixed with their absurd high level tech. So everything has a organic feel. The problem with a link network and organical weapons is that is very similar to the tyranids. But if the rules are different enough it could work very well.

As there are only very few slanns left the army structure should reflect that. Few UNits that are powerfull but ridiculus expansive. So a very small army.

For example (No real army list just a basic structure :P):

Slann Engineers
The Engineers are the Backbone of the Slann race. The are building an intergalactic network between there minds. They funciton as an communication hub for the few slanns throughout the universe.
On the battlefoield they provide the communication between ground- and spaceforces and there homebase.
All Slanns are psykers (?) but the Engineers are using a spherical construct that further enhances their powers. With it they are able to evoke forces that can even destroy titans. But using this much power will reduce the mindlink to a mere whisper nothing more than a radio transmission. All local mindcommunication is focused in one engineer. This Slann is the local Mindhub that concentrates one cummunication with the mindnetwork. If this slann dies the communication to the off planet hubs is broken and a lot of the longrange suports is without information. And longrange Suport like Warpfolds are not longer possible.
When there is great danger to the slann, some engineers are fusing with there bigest bio-constructs. These machines are filled with enhancers, similar to the spheres, and give the fused slann abilitiys that can destroy entire armys alone. But this equals a suicide mission as using this powerr will destroy the consctruct and the slann alike. Only very few where able to survive the fusion and even less are able to use psy powers ever again.

Abilitys:
- Mindlink (connects all slann on the batlefiedl) - all slann can use the sight of all other slann units (overpowered?)
- Mindhub (only one slann per army can be the mindhub)
- Psy powers - some kind of support powers and one or to destructive powers
- Warp fold (only when mindhub is alive) - units/detachments can be teloported
-

Slann Warriors
Some Slann are chosen to support the Engineers in battle. These Individuals are embedded into a powerfull Armor. These Suits are the best infantry the Slann can field and the only Slann that are trained for combat.
These warriors are highly adaptable and have the best equipment to their disposal.

Abilitys:
- Mindlink (connects all slann on the batlefiedl)
- lots of cool weapons

Constructs
These are biological engineered cyborg things. From infantry and tanks to titans.

Drones - Mostly cheap massproduced infantry/walker constructs

Skimmers - light tanks, assult constructs

Heavy Skimmers - Artillery and support units like shield generators

Flyers

Heavy Flyers

Titan Skimmers

Titan Flyers?



OK that were some Ideas in my mind. Haven't really thought about the non slann units. Some Ideas but will add that later.


Hi!

I'm liking where all this is headed. I'll ready my stat producing machine to give these ideas mechanical life as soon as Deacon gets the 3d concepts off and running.

As far as a "servitor" race that does all the menial labor (fight and die in their wars), the original net epic fluff created the race of "dracons". A psuedo-reptile race. A whole assortment of units can be derived from that.

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The PnC folks have a whole line of lizard Sci Fi aliens called Raptors for their 6mm line Solar Empire Marines. Might be worth checking out.

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The PnC folks have a whole line of lizard Sci Fi aliens called Raptors for their 6mm line Solar Empire Marines. Might be worth checking out.


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Exodus Wars has the tarragin, that would also suit well. :)

http://www.exoduswars.com/6mm-Mercenari ... ercenaries

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Dark Realms have the Kraytonian. Also Lizard space people if i remember correctly.

Hmm maybe the army can have three categories
- slann units
- constructs (vehicles and cyborg infantry)
- enhanced species

What ever the requirements would be...

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Dark Realms have the Kraytonian. Also Lizard space people if i remember correctly.

Hmm maybe the army can have three categories
- slann units
- constructs (vehicles and cyborg infantry)
- enhanced species

What ever the requirements would be...


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Yup, DRM Kraytonians would be a good one as well.

Your breakdown is a good framework to use. I like the stratification.

Slann units, rare and powerful at the top.

Bio-constructs, vehicles and artificial infantry

Servitor species with enhancements.

Very solid.

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I envisage the Slann (engineers) are hotwirde into a floating rig. The rig look like a concrete slab. With tech. When adding extra options like defense systems, powerfields, faster mobility, one should add a concrete slab underneath. Each added slab is a little bit larger.
So the end concept would result in floating (skimmer) stepped pyramids. Because I'd like to see the Mayan influence here.

Miniature-wise this could be achived by having a basic slann, wired onto a console, positioned on a concrete slab, having a central support pole underneath.
The additional slabs would have a hole in the center, so you can slide them over the support rod. Thus creating a pyramid (when adding 2 or more) ...

I really think the Slann are too advanced to be fighting themselves as soldiers. They use other (biological) constructs) to fight and do labour. They (the Slann) just sit an think.

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I will stick with the old fluff.
Want them different to necrons.


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Name one of the biggest icons from Epic Space Marine. I'll answer that: Squat Land Train!

The Slann are connected to Mayan influences with winged serpents and reptillian stuff like that. What about a modular vehicle tank for the Slann. Not exactly a "train", but it somehow has the appearance of one. The tractor would be the serpent's head. And a player can add extra "body parts" to make it longer. This would be the Slann Land Serpent (or maybe Centipede).

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Here's some sweet ass BFG work going on that would work as a big WE for the Slann (or at least how I picture them)
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Here's some sweet ass BFG work going on that would work as a big WE for the Slann (or at least how I picture them)
viewtopic.php?f=126&t=26037&start=70


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Interesting. I'm always wondering what a slann war engine would look like. Something with multiple legs would look pretty alien.

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Yeah I could totally see weird floating pyramids firing death rays, some type of Chacmool-esque thing with lightning arcing off it, walking statues, etc

these guys do NOT need tanks with turrets. We've got enough of those in generic sci fi tropes already :D

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Yeah I could totally see weird floating pyramids firing death rays, some type of Chacmool-esque thing with lightning arcing off it, walking statues, etc

these guys do NOT need tanks with turrets. We've got enough of those in generic sci fi tropes already :D


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Would they overlap with Necrons though whom also have that "floating monolith" thing going?

Also, unless some one actually makes stuff like this, we're kind of stuck with turrets and such.... :(

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