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 Post subject: Re: Riquende's evolving question thread
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:30 pm 
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I'm okay with "updated", provided it doesn't take another few years. I was really looking forward to getting the NetEpic rules professionally printed and bound. The same with the army books once they get finished. Please, let's not do a big overhaul.


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whatever you guys want, you is the boss! ;)

I would like the books and army lists corrected, updated and any newer content added before I go off to a printer for quotes.

More so I have not done so precisely because I knew things needed correcting/updating/etc. I did not want to print a book that had too many error and omissions.

I agree if that is what we do, it will be a brief thing (update, error correction etc) and I will get that printed to the select few that want one. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Riquende's evolving question thread
PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:23 pm 
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I'd rather that we don't introduce new units personally, but I'll save my fire power as to why very little ought to be changed for a more suitable thread :).

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 Post subject: Re: Riquende's evolving question thread
PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:45 pm 
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I'd rather that we don't introduce new units personally, but I'll save my fire power as to why very little ought to be changed for a more suitable thread :).


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"New" goes in the options book that still hasn't been made. As I mentioned before. I'm not changing the books as they are (not counting errata).

Extra, goes into something else. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Riquende's evolving question thread
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Thanks for clearing that up. I was beginning to wonder if you'd reversed that policy ;).

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 Post subject: Re: Riquende's evolving question thread
PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:01 pm 
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Thanks for clearing that up. I was beginning to wonder if you'd reversed that policy ;).


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Nah, I promised to keep "core" unchanged. All the crazy stuff goes into a separate "new" book. ;)

Its all good. ;D

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:16 am 
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Well I am all for new stuff.
One of the things I was thinking of was a current era Marine book which would take into account the newer style of companies and all the new units. Sort of like what they do with Flames of War with the early war / late war army lists. It might also tempt some EA players to play NetEpic without having to massively modify their army.

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Well I am all for new stuff.
One of the things I was thinking of was a current era Marine book which would take into account the newer style of companies and all the new units. Sort of like what they do with Flames of War with the early war / late war army lists. It might also tempt some EA players to play NetEpic without having to massively modify their army.

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All fair game for an "expansion" codex. ;)

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:21 pm 
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primarch wrote:
Irisado wrote:
I'd rather that we don't introduce new units personally, but I'll save my fire power as to why very little ought to be changed for a more suitable thread :).


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"New" goes in the options book that still hasn't been made. As I mentioned before. I'm not changing the books as they are (not counting errata).

Extra, goes into something else. :)

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Except for Slann. They may get an extensive rewrite once deacon gets those minis out. Or so I infer from comments you (primarch) have made in the Slann thread.

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 Post subject: Re: Riquende's evolving question thread
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Indeed the slann should get a new book. Likewise I would think if anyone produces any proper models for necrons or dark eldar then they might need a more significant review.


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primarch wrote:
Mattman wrote:
Well I am all for new stuff.
One of the things I was thinking of was a current era Marine book which would take into account the newer style of companies and all the new units. Sort of like what they do with Flames of War with the early war / late war army lists. It might also tempt some EA players to play NetEpic without having to massively modify their army.

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All fair game for an "expansion" codex. ;)

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Yeah, mostly just an additional optional way to structure the marines. All the units would be the same, along with a few new ones.

Also, I did think it might be worth trimming out the chapter specific stuff in the current book. It would then allow smaller expansion books and army lists for each chapter to actually be properly developed and produced without screwing up the current book.


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primarch wrote:
Irisado wrote:
I'd rather that we don't introduce new units personally, but I'll save my fire power as to why very little ought to be changed for a more suitable thread :).


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"New" goes in the options book that still hasn't been made. As I mentioned before. I'm not changing the books as they are (not counting errata).

Extra, goes into something else. :)

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Except for Slann. They may get an extensive rewrite once deacon gets those minis out. Or so I infer from comments you (primarch) have made in the Slann thread.


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Totally agree!

I believe the most prudent course is to leave it out altogether from a printed book and do it separately when its all said and done.

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Mattman wrote:
Well I am all for new stuff.
One of the things I was thinking of was a current era Marine book which would take into account the newer style of companies and all the new units. Sort of like what they do with Flames of War with the early war / late war army lists. It might also tempt some EA players to play NetEpic without having to massively modify their army.

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All fair game for an "expansion" codex. ;)

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Yeah, mostly just an additional optional way to structure the marines. All the units would be the same, along with a few new ones.

Also, I did think it might be worth trimming out the chapter specific stuff in the current book. It would then allow smaller expansion books and army lists for each chapter to actually be properly developed and produced without screwing up the current book.



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That's not a bad idea actually. The SM book should be very generic and chapter specific stuff perhaps a separate book.

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 Post subject: Re: Riquende's evolving question thread
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primarch wrote:
Mattman wrote:
Yeah, mostly just an additional optional way to structure the marines. All the units would be the same, along with a few new ones.

Also, I did think it might be worth trimming out the chapter specific stuff in the current book. It would then allow smaller expansion books and army lists for each chapter to actually be properly developed and produced without screwing up the current book.



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That's not a bad idea actually. The SM book should be very generic and chapter specific stuff perhaps a separate book.

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Would make the book a bit more manageable, plus the main marine book would cover the Ultramarines, since they are supposed to the basis for all other chapters. Then depending on how people wanted to do it, you could start with a book just covering the most recognisable First Founding Chapters like Space Wolves, Blood Angels, Dark Angels and Imperial Fists, then a second covering the more obscure First Founding Chapters, so, White Scars, Salamanders, Iron Hands, and Raven Guard then further ones covering the later Foundings and more obscure ones like Crimson Fists, Black Templars, Flesh Tearers, Lamenters, Mentors etc.

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 Post subject: Re: Riquende's evolving question thread
PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:35 am 
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As much as I love all the effort that has gone into formatting all the books and providing nice graphics and images, damn are they big files and they take forever to print. Especially the Ork and Guard ones. I have to wonder if the detailed background layer is required in some of them, the water mark of the Aquila in the marine book works well and doesn't over power the information. I would also look at splitting the Eldar / Dark Eldar up. Would make the documents more manageable and allow them to be tweaked separately.

Lastly, apologies for Riquendes for high jacking his thread and taking the discussion away from his points.


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As much as I love all the effort that has gone into formatting all the books and providing nice graphics and images, damn are they big files and they take forever to print. Especially the Ork and Guard ones. I have to wonder if the detailed background layer is required in some of them, the water mark of the Aquila in the marine book works well and doesn't over power the information. I would also look at splitting the Eldar / Dark Eldar up. Would make the documents more manageable and allow them to be tweaked separately.

Lastly, apologies for Riquendes for high jacking his thread and taking the discussion away from his points.


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That's because I wanted a nice layout for an actual book, so considerations for printing took a back seat to this guideline of mine. I suppose some stripped down version could be accomplished at some point that is printer friendly. :)

Please start another thread regarding this point to leave this one for the OP's questions.

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