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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:39 am 
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An armoured transport of truly massive proportions, the Spartan is a heavy assault tank previously all but unknown outside of the revered Space Marine Chapters and the secretive Adeptus Mechanicus. The Spartan is a huge armoured conveyer whose purpose is to carry a large body of troops into the very heart of an enemy’s battle lines, weathering weapons fire that would be the death of any lesser vehicle.

Its design bears clear connections with that of the mighty Land Raider, and its genius is such that the greater proportion of its interior space is given over to a transport capacity greater than any other Imperial vehicle save the super-heavy Gorgons – being capable of carrying twenty-five power armoured Space Marines into battle. It is, however, considerably faster on the battlefield thanks to potent reactor-driven motive drives, and it boasts an equally potent armament in the form of sponson-mounted quad lascannon batteries and secondary heavy bolters.


Note: No experimental rules yet. I bet they wait for Wh40k 6th edition.

Further note: Should develop a Minotaurs Chapter armylist....

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:07 am 
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I think I need to see this sitting next to a standard plastic land raider, I can't really see how huge it is.

As for rules surely a standard LR with 4 Twin lascanons and transport 5 would be appropriate? Sure it may warrant being a small WE but that might be fiddly. It says it's fast but for a tank that size, being as fast as a Land raider is still pretty good.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:42 pm 
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I can't shake the feeling this thing is going to be broken and ridiculous.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:34 pm 
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CaptainSenioris wrote:
I think I need to see this sitting next to a standard plastic land raider, I can't really see how huge it is.


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Appears to be lengthened on the tracks and a bit wider.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:07 pm 
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BlackLegion wrote:
Further note: Should develop a Minotaurs Chapter armylist....


Let me know if you are serious on this as I'll be thrilled to be as involved as I can be (considering that my current marines are minotaurs). I will admit that they're a hard bunch to create a list for without it devolving into "everything and the kitchen sink" list.

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 Post subject: Re: Spartan Assault Tank
PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:00 am 
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Well basically it is the Siege Assault Vanguard army list. Have to tweak it a bit to fit Spartans, Storm Eagles, Contemptors, etc...

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:09 pm 
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BlackLegion wrote:
Should develop a Minotaurs Chapter armylist....

Since I'm collecting them for my SM army I gave it a lot of thought and wrote a proper Minotaurs list (different than the Siege Vanguard list, which I'll run them as too sometimes) around 9 months ago or so, but never got round to posting it, as I hadn't finished writing the post explaining it and the design choices.

Irritatingly I may have lost access to the excel file when my portable hard drive got submerged in the flood in our sleeping area in our warehouse. I need to try and dig out my usb stick to check if it might be on there and otherwise rewrite it from scratch if not. I'll try and do it and post it soon... if I don't within a fortnight or so remind me. I'm definitely keen to look after and test the list for the Minotaurs.


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 Post subject: Re: Spartan Assault Tank
PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:50 pm 
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Experimental rules are now available:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/P ... partan.pdf

So Epic stats could look like this:

Space Marine Spartan Assault Tank
Type Speed Armour CloseCombat Firefight
War Engine 4+ 6+ 4+
Weapon Range Firepower Notes
Twin Heavy Bolter 30cm AP4+ Front Fire Arc
Quad Lascannon 45cm 2 x AT4+ Left Fire Arc
Quad Lascannon 45cm 2 x AT4+ Right Fire Arc

Damage Capacity 2. Critical Hit Effect: The Spartan's magazine explodes. The Spartan is destroyed, and any units within 5cm of the model suffer a hit on a D6 roll of 6.

Notes: Reinforced Armour, Thick Rear Armour, Transport (may carry three Terminator units OR five of the following units: Space Marine Tactical, Devastator & Scout units).

Alternative:

Space Marine Spartan Assault Tank
Type Speed Armour CloseCombat Firefight
War Engine 4+ 6+ 4+
Weapon Range Firepower Notes
Twin Heavy Bolter 30cm AP4+ Front Fire Arc
Laser Destroyer 30cm AT3+ Left Fire Arc
Laser Destroyer 30cm AT3+ Right Fire Arc

Damage Capacity 2. Critical Hit Effect: The Spartan's magazine explodes. The Spartan is destroyed, and any units within 5cm of the model suffer a hit on a D6 roll of 6.

Notes: Reinforced Armour, Thick Rear Armour, Transport (may carry three Terminator units OR five of the following units: Space Marine Tactical, Devastator & Scout units).

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:22 pm 
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The first profile looks best, the lascannons are the default weapons and should be what is represented, rather than the Laser Destroyers.

I'll definitely add the Spartan in to my Minotaurs list. I didn't have a copy on the USB in the end,so will re-write it from scratch once I bicycle the 700km or so further to Brisbane and get a chance to buy a nice new Symbian smartphone that has Microsoft Office on, to write it up on nicely.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:51 am 
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Also, the Spartan should be a formation upgrade and not a seperately available formation. It's fine for Tacticals, Devestator or Terminators, but should not be an upgrade available to the Scout formation, as a garrisoning Spartan overwatching the enemy to the face with 4 x 45cm AT4+ and would be abusive.

Costwise 150 points? It's pretty much the equivalent of 2 Land Raiders, minus a twin heavy bolter.


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