Still doesn't make it right or sense

and i've had issue with it there since i first noticed it (although to be fair, thats primarily because its better at intercepting than eldar, but also our dedicated interceptor)

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Sure it does. Since the stalker was axed, BL has to rely on its aircraft or footslogging expensive obliterators. A couple of 3+ AA shots on a fm that could be better used attacking ground targets isn't that big a consolation prize.

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That argument is fairly weak. Going along with your theory, Hellblades should perhaps be upgunned if the BL require their aircraft for AA duty. Other armies have to rely on their aircraft and they don't get better-than-Eldar stats.... Given Obliterators have 3 shots and are infantry with RA (so are very hard to kill) it's even less of an argument in my mind. There is no real justification for the Lascannon to be the premier AA weapon in the game. If the Hell Talons are supposedly ground attack. They shouldn't have the best intercept weapon game-wide. I'm not saying remove the weapon, just the AA attack. That focusses them on GA.

I agree with BL that the +1 intercept rule is largely the cause of this, however.

I've no problem with them.

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So you're saying the Lightning Attack Fighter is AA5+/AA5+? Sounds fine to me.

It may help for you to post those EpicUK stats for reference. Please.

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I predict opponents screaming "unfair" at a 45cm AA4+ intercept.

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I'm happy to try it out if the others are, but I can foresee some unhappy opponents.

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I think it'd be worth sticking to only the long barelled autocannon having a 45cm AA5+ shot for now - that way the player has to choose between range (and safety) vs. firepower. Then if it still feels like it's underperforming we can always up the range on the other load out (or cut points). I think having full firepower at 45cm will allow it to offset its weak armour (a key balancing point) by allowing it to stay within a friendly AA bubble or out of an enemy AA bubble

I say keep the ground shots on the autocannon but go to armour -, as that emphasises the characteristics of the unit more; long range and manouverability as protection rather than armour.

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I disagree. At 45cm, the Lightning Fighters can safely attack ground formations without much regard for ground flak, which is almost always centrally located to avoid getting sniped. As for 45cm AA attacks, having EVERY attack at 45cm makes them vastly superior.

I think we're headed for trouble with this and agree with Mattthemuppet in that having two separate ranges as we've been hammering out for 13 pages.

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