its essentially TK: (4(-1 x (R/15cm)) where R equals range fired

or more simply, the TK value is reduced by 1 for every 15cm the weapon was fired

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Hey Angel of Caliban, you didn't put in stat lines for the eldar knights? are they the same stats that were on Chroma's draft?

they look good so far.. I really like the stats on the old weapons.. so far they look appropriate, but i'm not a good number cruncher for seeing if the stats need to be lesser or greater.. still, a good approach to the list.

It basically means that the closer you are the more damage you do, within 15cm you do the full TK(4) damage per shot.

I’m disappointed that there’s such a wide gap between the standard lists and these titan-based lists.

The former limit you to 1,000 points of titans in 3,000pt games. The latter force you to take at least four titans (including scouts in single-titan formations) in order to get enough support formations to make it to 3,000pts. I’d bet a lot of people have one battle titan and two scout titans in their collection, plus a few aircraft, and they fall into the gap I was talking about where they can’t use all their stuff in a 3,000pt battle using either list.

Does that sort of “intermediate” list (one- to two-thirds of its points in titans and aircraft) not make for good games in practice?

You couldn't use them all in one game, but you would have the choice of which you used in any particular game. Players with both Eldar battle titans or multiple could use the list but not everyone. You could try proxing another titan for a bit to try the list out possibly? (an old friend used a coke can slightly crushed down to the correct height for a Phantom titan in a game once).

I think theming list and limiting support formations in titan lists is wise - they get to have lots of very killy titans, they need a downside! It's also a standard feature of the Imperial Titan Legions list too.

So, at exactly 60mm, it only causes a BM then?

I see from the Compilation that version 2.1.1 ups the cost of the Phantom and Warlock by 100 points. As there was a lot of talk about there not being enough difference between the costs of these 2, why didn't this end up as 850 for Warlock and 700 for Phantom? As it is now, the difference actually got smaller (percentage wise, anyway).

Mostly that the prices in this list and the version printed in the Eldar Compendium don't match.

Which one is correct?

Okay,

I like these prices better, but the version in the compendium says 2.1.1, so I thought it might be more current.

So, what are folks thoughts on the "ideal" lists?

Ive played a few games with this list now and one using the 2.1.1 list.
The biggest thing i find is the 1:1 ratio still is just to harsh, it need to be 2:1 atleast to make any decent viable lists in my opinon, also the spirit sword just seems like a moot choice of weapon when you have the power fist which i think is much better.
Also i dont really see a niche for the phantasm titan,its to simalar to the phantom and doesnt really fill any gaps or stand out in its own right as a "different" option.



Tim NZ

Is the list still crushing all comers?

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