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Save the Bloodgors?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:55 am 
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Quote: (Chroma @ Feb. 17 2010, 08:04 )

I posted this in a "Dobbsy" thread, so I'm going to post it here as well:

Personally, I'd like to see a third person take over and merge the best concepts of the various World Eaters lists to get a "core" list; using the ideas and experiences without the animosity and hard feelings.

Chroma

Do you really think it was necessary as an AC of various lists to come in and 'sabotage' the development of the World Eaters?

It is not like I have been hiding the list until this point. As you well know I presented the list for approval to the NetERC and waited a week to find out from anyone that the advise I was given was incorrect. In that time, Neal posted his ideas which allowed me to tighten the list and gain community input.

Now that I am about 4 days away from handing in the finished list, you have come on with this 'hindsight' to take the list of myself and Morgan to be given to a third party.

Do you honestly believe this was a necessary comment from a representative of the NetEA and NetERC? Why do you make this suggestion at the end of the development?

I honestly feel as if I am being bullied. Why can't I just continue on and hand the list in? Have I not provided exactly what was required to hand a list in? As silly as it sounds, would you please consider handing me the Tyranid and Ork lists for me to decide on what should continue to be in the lists? Surely it is exactly the same as whet you are asking of me?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:00 am 
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Quote: (zombocom @ Feb. 17 2010, 07:49 )

Until you can dobbsy come to some agreement over sheperding different areas of the khorne lists, I can't see either of you getting netEA approved.

Zombo

Why is this the case. What have I not done to get the list approved?

I have shown development
I have produced battle reports
I have a whole community eager to play
I have a supplement being developed
I have support

So under what stricture that no-one else in the history of list development has this list no chance of approval?

I want to understand what right anyone has to hijack a thread and make such demands and observations? Under what 'rule' is a forced collaboration required?

Have I not done enough?

Instead of enjoying other armies, I have made the World Eaters my sole focus for 12 months. Is it really necessary to ask this of me right at the end of the development?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:01 am 
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end of the development


How can development be coming to an end in 4 days if something as basic as what units will be in the army still isn't settled?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:07 am 
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Quote: (Evil and Chaos @ Feb. 17 2010, 11:01 )

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end of the development


How can development be coming to an end in 4 days if something as basic as what units will be in the army still isn't settled?

Tha balance of the units is not in question.

It is merely a revision of ommision.

Do you have to playtest a list beyond 20+ games if the unit stats do not change?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:11 am 
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Quote: (frogbear @ Feb. 17 2010, 02:07 )

Do you have to playtest a list beyond 20+ games if the unit stats do not change?

Yes, yes you do. Removing a large number of units from the list could well leave the list underpowered.

Remove the thunderhawk from the codex marine list and you suddenly have an underpowered list.

It doesn't neccesarily invalidate previous testing, but does require more testing, especially when done at such short notice before submitting for consideration.

I really think you'd be better off waiting a while.




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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:17 am 
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Quote: (zombocom @ Feb. 17 2010, 11:11 )

Quote: (frogbear @ Feb. 17 2010, 02:07 )

Do you have to playtest a list beyond 20+ games if the unit stats do not change?

Yes, yes you do. Removing a large number of units from the list could well leave the list underpowered.

Remove the thunderhawk from the codex marine list and you suddenly have an underpowered list.

It doesn't neccesarily invalidate previous testing, but does require more testing, especially when done at such short notice before submitting for consideration.

I really think you'd be better off waiting a while.

Thanks Zombo.

It is appreciated. I am sure you do understand my view however, even though it is not said.

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Bear in mind that so far the netERC have approved a grand total of one list, which had at that point remained in a settled state for over a year. The sheer fact of changing the list at all so close to submission will probably be enough to make the netERC decide to wait.

E&C's Death Korps of Krieg for example is a settled list, but because a few changes were made a few months ago the netERC have recommended he wait a while and playtest more.

Submit if you want, but realise that there's a pretty slim chance of it being accepted. This isn't a reflection on your list, which I think is moving in the right direction, just an acknowledgement that they can't be certain it's finalised without testing of just the finalised list by a wide range of players.




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Agree with Zombo.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:54 am 
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I want to thank everyone for their input into this thread

I will open up another thread with the resulting list from such discussions.

Regards.   :D

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