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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 6:33 pm 
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Hmm...your about 30lbs ahead of me then Legion4, we could make an epic wrestling team together...

...the titans.... :D  :D

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 6:09 am 
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Eat more wings & pizza !  :D  The Titans - good name ... :laugh: We can take on Jervis, Tony, Gav, Andy etc. ... They wouldn't stand a chance !   :laugh:

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Eat more wings & pizza !    The Titans - good name ...  We can take on Jervis, Tony, Gav, Andy etc. ... They wouldn't stand a chance !    


Once we beat them into submission we'll demand them to make the epic models WE would like to see.

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Works for Me !!! :laugh:

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 8:54 am 
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Noticed that TAS asked about Vanquisher "command" tanks.

As most of my Russes and Chimeras are from the SM-2 era, I've been toying with some ideas on how to represent the two now mandatory command vehicles, the Vanquisher and the Salamander. Frankly, I don't much like an idea of different-looking command tanks if only for the reason that in real life I fear they would be "bullet magnets" very quickly, but converting is always fun so here are my two cents.

First the Leman Russ Vanquisher, "old skool". This one is easy - one day I tried old metal Predator turrets on Russ hulls, and surprise surprise, they fit very well! A bit longer barrel and a very nice, T-55eque round turret with obviously more room for the commander to, well, command. The downside is, of course, that you need old Predator turrets, but they are quite easy to replicate by casting.

Other option would be to build them by yourself - not as difficult as you may think! Few years back I made some originals I was about to use to cast my own Predator turrets and sponsons to get a) Preds from extra plastic Rhinos and b) to get tanks more resembling the old WH40K plastic Predator. Still haven't got around to actually making the molds, but maybe one day...

But I digress. Turrets I made from sawed-off round screw heads with piece of plastic rod, or if you want strenght, brass rod or thin brass tube. This is superglued to the screwdriver slot for barrel, a Rhino bolter hatch is added to the top (in this case, Imperial hatch sprue certainly works better) and the gaps are green stuffed, although any filler will do.

Total work time about 10 minutes a piece. I think all will agree that if you need Vanquishers only for command tanks this will be very acceptable amount of time.

Additional quick-to-make embellishments fitting for a Vanquisher would be, for example, a bore evacuator (or the fat thingy on the middle of the barrel in modern MBTs if I'm wrong on the English terms) from a piece of thin plastic or metal tubing, and some sort of gun shield/recoil mechanism from green stuff. This is especially important if you have new, detailed Russes - the plain Predator-style turret will look somewhat out of place there. ?

Then the Salamander. Those build from the artillery hulls are very, very nice, but the only real idea I have is to build a taller cargo compartment ? la M577 to a bog-standard Chimera, as I don't want to have totally dissimilar transport vehicles in one Company. Green stuff is your friend, but does any of you more talkative friends have better ideas for poor ole Chimeras?

Lastly, for the Executioner I recommend the new-style plastic WH40K plasma pistol, instead of the old round "Black & Decker" one. Not sure which version you guys were referring to in earlier posts, so apologies if I'm stating a known fact here! The new version is available, thinner and more "to scale", especially after some cutting!

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Thanks Teekkari, some great stuff there.  As always the problem is finding time, not inspiration, for modelling.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 10:42 pm 
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The M577 is only seen at Bn and above. ?I had an M577 in the R.O.K. as the BN LOC. ?But as a Co. Cdr, my CMD track was an M113 just like all the other tracks in the Co., for a number of reasons, one being as you stated, that CMD vehicles are priority targets ! ? And yes, you are correct in identifying the "bore evacuator" ! :;):

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I have seen the plasma pistol suggestion before, but I think it is too big for the Executioner. It would make a passable plasma blastgun if one was to make a Stormblade.

IMO to make a Vanquisher the simplest method is just to put a long barrel with a muzzle brake to a standard Russ. IIRC the Vanguisher turret isn't any larger than that on a  regular Russ.

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I've used the plasma gun from the old predecessor to Necromunda, "Confrontation", for an Executioner conversion.  I've used other weapons from that sprue too, to upgrade dreadnaughts also.  They are smaller than the current range of 40k small arms, and fit well into Epic scale.

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I love 28mm 40k weapons. They make great main armament for 6mm sci-fi AFVs.

I especially love the old Codex Grey laser gun. It looks much better as a 6mm sci-fi weapon than it did as a 28mm small arms rifle.

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Sorry if thishas been brought up in another thread but i couldn't really find it anywhere.

Anyway I thought I'd create a topic about Stormwind. What do we know about it for facts, what do people speculate, what do you hope will be in it?

I know it is supposed to cover the basic Eldar army list -Biel Tan was it? In addition it was supposed to include the Death Korps of Krieg list, Feral Orks list and an yet unspecified SM list.
Now: Did anyone see the Blood Angles Dreadnought conversion on yesterdays pic of the day on the SG page? When you also consider that therre was a Baal pattern predator among the resn test pieces from Games Day I am beginning to speculate werther the "unspecified SM list" could be Blood Angles???
It would seem logical for it to be the Black Templars as there's already a test list for them in the vault + some of the minis are paintd as BT but then again the above does suggest that a Blood Angles list isn't too far awaay either...

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Its impossible to say.  What you say is right, and it could be either.  I think I would bet on BT rather than BA, purely for the reason of no experimental list available for the Blood Angels yet.

I'm more interested in how the Eldar list is going.   Seems to me that there's a lot of work still to do.


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Its definitely Biel Tan.
Aspect warriors will be plastic E40K editon ones with the exception of the Shining spears.

Thats basically all the official definites to date.
The 21 pack range could be well guessed at, but quantities & setup are obviously reliant on the army list which is still in testing.

Both points for which SM army are as valid as each other, but I would go with BTs. The BA drednought was a conversion, so implies nothing, but the BAAL is a valid point. Similarly, The BT painted minis are as I have said before, Mark Bedford's (the sculptors) personal force & arent any more official in terms of a studio army than my second Warhound will be  :D However, the army list is already in testing so to me this is the single most reliable pointer at this stage.

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Well they still need to sculpt some more aspects, as the current sprue only has DR, SH, SS, WS and HB.  They need to add Fire Dragons, Dire Avengers and Shining Spears.

I dont see them forcing you to convert all of those to be able to field them.

I wonder if we'd then also see aspect specific exarchs?  I doubt it.


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Quote (Shadow Hunter @ 19 2003 Nov.,10:57)
Well they still need to sculpt some more aspects, as the current sprue only has DR, SH, SS, WS and HB. ?They need to add Fire Dragons, Dire Avengers and Shining Spears.

I dont see them forcing you to convert all of those to be able to field them.

I wonder if we'd then also see aspect specific exarchs? ?I doubt it.

Good point, I'd completely overlooked that.

As I say, last I heard they said all the Aspects other than SS's would be plastic. Obviously we wont be seeing any NEW plastics (that_IS_ a definite) so I wonder what their plan is - different paint schemes or new metals? I'll try and find out.

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