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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 10:51 pm 
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What confuses me to death is, if they constantly complain and point out the lack of resources, why not just crank out the same old epic stuff that was available? Old molds they say? I hardly think epic could compete or be anywhere near the amount of use a 40k or fantasy mold would. They have been saying the molds are old for a couple of years now, yet they still seem to be able to crank out more via GWUS. Perhaps they have newer molds?

I'll never buy their excuses for not bringing out the full line by pumping out the old molds. I bet they could do it if they wanted too.

The main thing is "IF" they wanted too.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 11:28 pm 
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The problem Primarch is that the Warhammer 40K range has "evolved" from its Rouge Trader and 2nd Edition past, thus many of the older Epic models that fitted into the older styles no longer fit in, eg Rhino, plastic Falcon etc.

So they see it fit to make models that fit in with the current range, so newbies know what they are from looking at the 28mm range.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 2:19 am 
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I understand your point Chris, but instead of doing it "all at one go" why not make the old line fully available and renew it slow as time and resources permit?

Also trying to appeal to newbies may be their goal, but I have yet to see success on their part to this goal.

Time will tell.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 5:44 am 
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Jervis and the G/W UK crew can say whatever they want about the molds (or moulds ?), they could be lying or telling the truth ... we'll never know ! ???  G/W US :unclesam: are showing themselves to be the true capitalists mercenaries they are and are continuing to sell Epic stuff all the way back to SM1 in some cases.  :;):  G/W UK made a BAD decision to stop Epic sales until the release of E:A ... period !   Jervis and his clan are much too emotionally involved and "can't see the forest for the trees".  The E:A changes are too numerous, too often and the whole thing appears to be poorly conceived ... IMO. FRoA #202 - The justification for profit is profit. :laugh:

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 8:43 am 
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Yeah. The old and especialy the old-but-never-released epic is a great lure for stupid old farts like me. I have spent hundreds of $$ to buy the stuff already and have made an order for the dropship already.

What I would give for beetleback Warlords .  :blues:

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 4:33 pm 
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I think GW has never really sat down to think who the TRUE target market for epic is. I dont think the usual "bright and shiny" marketing they use for their other games works since epic seems to be dominated by "old farts' like us.

As Mojarn mentions, I think GW could make a killing by re-releasing old models like the CI or beetleback titans for limited runs. The are many ways I think they could make a profit with epic and yet they dont do any of them.

I agree with Legion4 about GWUS, why are they pumping out the epic by the truckload? Mojarn isn't the only one buying over priced archive pieces, I have too. They still continue to offer them which means they are making money.

Whats GWUK's excuse?

I think each game that GW produces is its own universe as far as its marketing goes, trying to make it "40k-lite" will NEVER work.

Some things never change....

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FRoA #41 - Profit is it's own reward.  G/W UK should be making Truckloads of Epic of all eras not more excuses about E:A ... Period !!!  :cool:

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 8:59 pm 
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Well, Legion4, you get your wish. Starting 2004 GWUK will be releasing truckloads of epic, unfortumately they seem to have forgotten to inform GWUS....doh! ????

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 5:11 am 
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They still have never got over their defeat at Yorktown have they ! :laugh:  :laugh:  }:)

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 9:12 am 
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What? You mean we don't own America any more? When did that happen :p

*Ducks the incoming flames and hides behind a barrel*

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 12:03 pm 
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Quote (netepic @ 13 2003 Nov.,08:12)
What? You mean we don't own America any more? When did that happen :p

*Ducks the incoming flames and hides behind a barrel*

My, has somebody been reading too much Rifle Brigade lately?  :laugh:

From Rifle Brigade comes to mind: does anybody remember a *really* old comic book series called "Hellmut Hammerstein" or something like that?

IIRC it was published in early 70's or something and was about a German tank commander who did as unbelievably idiotic and unrealistic stunts as the allies do in the "Commando" series of comic books. It would be nice to get that series sometime just for a change.  :p

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Ah, More Anti-American sentiments ... go rent the "Patriot" on Tape or DVD !!!   :laugh:  }:)  :laugh:  :laugh:  :p

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No dammit, nore the Bounty or Braveheart :). Is it me or does Mel Gibson kill hundreds of brits in every movie he makes now days :p.

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Hey, the brits are always okay in my book. They're the only ones to back us when we need it. A friend in need is a friend indeed!

Now those pesky french are another matter....... :;):

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And Mel is an Aussie !  Another Aussie is commanding a British Warship in 1805 against the French, in a movie we plan on seeing this weekend - Russel Crowe in "Master & Commander".   According to the History Channel, this should be a "Good Show" !  And Tas our resident Aussie Sailor is out to sea, somewhere in the Pacific ! :o   The Boyz from the US, UK & Down Under kicked some lunatic butt ... again !  :;):

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