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Fallen Titan Legions: Legio Mortis 1.0

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:12 am 
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Quote: (studderingdave @ 02 Jul. 2009, 23:57 )

list looks good for how quick it was created. if memory serves me correctly legio mortis was largely individided but slowly began to fall to nurgle.

are you planning on eventually incorperating all the chaos gods into one lsit or will each god have their own army?

A list to each god, with the possibility of something undivided emerging out of a Dark Mechanicum list (think, horde of Mechanicus Traitor with packs of the God Machines striding amongst them) but for now, I'm sticking to dooing one list for each of the Chaos Powers,

Next list is Khorne.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:25 am 
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i was hoping for mono god lists anyways.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:26 am 
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Quote: (British @ 03 Jul. 2009, 00:24 )

Chaos Emperor Titans are rare...and by rare, I meen really really really really rare - and if there's any type of unit in the EA game that deserves a 'Special Character' status, its named Titans - I'm specifically avoiding generic Titans because 'Special Characters' gives me the ability to have Emperors in the list but maintain limited numbers in a way that does not cause too much whining along the lines of 'BUT THE AMTL LIST HAS THEM'.

Also, list is clearly stated to represent all Titans of Nurgle in a generic fashion, simply the main focus of the lists background is the Legio Mortis - which are devotees of Nurgle in the current background - the Festering Death is mentioned elsewhere and I've allways considered the 'colors' of the Traitor Legions to be pre-heresy recordings, the bulk of the knowledge we have of the currently existing Titans is that they've long since been mutated into the colors of their gods - hense why we have a generic 'rotting flesh' color across 90% of Nurgle Followers - in the end of the day, its just the Legion I chose for the fluffpieces as personal preference and no way forces you to use this list as Legio Mortis if you'd rather not.

Sorry to contradict you but have you read "Storm of Iron"? The Legio Mortis is featured there (and the Dies Irae too) and there is absolute no sign of Nurgle seen (not even nurgly colors. I remember brass and red but i don't have my copy at hand to look it up). If i have to pick a Chaos God as the Legios patron i would say Khorne if any.

And as cool the idea might seem to add Unique units to a list remember that the goal is to create a tournament list. It would be odd if every Legio Mortis army would feature the Dies Irae. I would go for a generic Emperor Class Battletitan and leave the Dies Irae to a eventual collectors model section.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:54 am 
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i pulled this quote off of lexicanum. its a 40k fluff site.

"Legio Mortis (Death's Heads) are a Traitor Titan Legion, now residing within the Eye of Terror. The Legion was one of several Titan Legions serving under Warmaster Horus during the Great Crusade, as part of the 63rd Expeditionary Fleet. Under Horus it fought in over a hundred campaigns of the Crusade.

The legion was corrupted by the powers of Chaos which enveloped the rebel forces under Horus, and most of the Death's Heads fell towards the vile decay of Nurgle, ironically that same entity which had so disgusted the Titan crews fighting against the hordes of Plague Bearers on the moon of Davin before Horus fell.

Legio Mortis is the most notorious of the traitor Titan Legions. The Legio directly supported Horus before his daemon-possessed treachery against the Emperor. The Legio followed him willingly. When the Horus Heresy began with the virus-bombing of Isstvan III, it was the Legio Mortis which made the landings to scour the corpse-packed hives for the last survivors.

On Mars, the Legio Mortis forces supported the traitor Fabricator General Kelbor-Hal, and were the first titan legion to walk in support of Horus. These contingents of Legio Mortis, however, were all but destroyed by Legio Tempestus, save for the Hellstorm Cannon of the Imperator Aquila Ignis.

Some say that it was mutated strains of the Life-Eater Virus that was unleashed upon Isstvan III that brought about the final corruption of the Legio. When the Legio Mortis landed on Earth to besiege the Emperor's palace they were warped and mutated almost beyond recognition. The adamantium skins of their Titans were pocked and bubbled with foul effluvia, great tentacles of flesh and metal lashed and their titan heads had been transformed into the visages of daemons.

The Legion breached the walls of the Imperial Palace during the siege. The Death's Heads also fought on Paramar and Tallarn.

The remnants of the Legion fled to the Eye of Terror following the collapse of the rebellion, and from time to time, Chaos Titans bearing the tattered banners of the Legio Mortis have attacked human planets to wreak terrible vengeance on all living things for the defeat of their beloved Warmaster. "


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Sorry but this article is highly dubious.
Where is the source for The legion was corrupted by the powers of Chaos which enveloped the rebel forces under Horus, and most of the Death's Heads fell towards the vile decay of Nurgle,
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To be vitally honest, 0-1 Units allready exist within some of the lists, just because I decide to name it rather than lable it as 'generic Emperor-class 001' does not imbalance the list and is more in line with the fact that this IS a list based around a legion with some character to it - while I'm certain that the bulk of the Deaths Head's went Nurgle, its still just the background I've thrown in to flavour the list - if you don't like it, just make your army a Festering Death one, my background pieces are just backgroun pieces and don't effect the actual game in itsself.

However, there is a point where I think you are correct, and that is the fact that the Dies Irae did, I believe, turn to Khorne unlike the bulk of the Legion, or at least thats the assumption we have from its appearence in Storm of Iron.




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I have nothing against 0-1 units. But i have issues with named units.
That's as if the Death Guard list would have the Terminus Est instead of a Despoiler Class Battleship or the Steel Legion the Fortress of Arrogance instead of just a Baneblade with added Commissar.




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Not really, a named Emperor Class reflects to some extent how rare such things are in the forces of Chaos, that was the reason for dooing so - driving home the point that these where INCREDIBLY RARE machines.

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The Fortress of Arrogance is INCREDIBLY RARE too (there is only one). Yet no one would put it in the tournament army list.

And for Legio Mortis (from Titan Legions Codex Titanicus page 12):
They remain trapped in servitude to the gods of Chaos,[...]

Gods not God or Nurgle so the Legio Mortis seems to be Chaos Undivided.

So i would suggest:
- Remove the name Dies Irae form the Traitor Imperatior Titan
- Use the Festering Deaths as the Nurgle Titan Legion. It is the iconic Nurgle Titan Legion (because it's the only one of we are certain that they are Nurgle dedicated)




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Quick comments after 1st reading (v1.0) :

4* Blight Drones for only 40pts ? Shouldn't it be more ?
They are antigrav AA-upgraded Sentinels, so 150 or 175pts should be more senseful.
And the Firepower should be wrtitten "AP5+/AT6+/AA6+", no "AP5+/AT6+ OR AA6+"

"Favoured of Nurgle (0-1 per +3 Titan Formations, Battle Titans Only)", "3+" instead of "+3", no ?

Devastation cruiser in the list, Slaughter cruiser in the profiles.

Favoured titans are deamon engines, so Princepts shouldn't be allowed.

Bident : ouah ! 3 attacks TK(1) ! Chaos Warhounds are very very nasty ! Well I suppose Warhound CC4+ is not Reaver CC3+, but I still find it powerful. MW would 'shocked' me less than TK.

Stream of Filth : rewrite the weapon profile (shooty profile AND FF profile), there I don't know if the extra attack is FF or CC, and if it has some extra abilies.

Blight Missile should be "Caparace only"

I can't find how a titan can be equiped with a Battle Tail (not in the army list nor in the profile of the titans).
And it should have a 360° fire arc.

Oh, and you should credit yourself in the heading (easier when you have comments about a one year old list but you don't remember the author) ;)




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Rule for Battle Tails are right underneath the weapons list

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Quote: (BlackLegion @ 03 Jul. 2009, 07:26 )

Quote: (British @ 03 Jul. 2009, 00:24 )

Chaos Emperor Titans are rare...and by rare, I meen really really really really rare - and if there's any type of unit in the EA game that deserves a 'Special Character' status, its named Titans - I'm specifically avoiding generic Titans because 'Special Characters' gives me the ability to have Emperors in the list but maintain limited numbers in a way that does not cause too much whining along the lines of 'BUT THE AMTL LIST HAS THEM'.

Also, list is clearly stated to represent all Titans of Nurgle in a generic fashion, simply the main focus of the lists background is the Legio Mortis - which are devotees of Nurgle in the current background - the Festering Death is mentioned elsewhere and I've allways considered the 'colors' of the Traitor Legions to be pre-heresy recordings, the bulk of the knowledge we have of the currently existing Titans is that they've long since been mutated into the colors of their gods - hense why we have a generic 'rotting flesh' color across 90% of Nurgle Followers - in the end of the day, its just the Legion I chose for the fluffpieces as personal preference and no way forces you to use this list as Legio Mortis if you'd rather not.

Sorry to contradict you but have you read "Storm of Iron"? The Legio Mortis is featured there (and the Dies Irae too) and there is absolute no sign of Nurgle seen (not even nurgly colors. I remember brass and red but i don't have my copy at hand to look it up). If i have to pick a Chaos God as the Legios patron i would say Khorne if any.

100% agree with this.

Having read Storm of Iron, there is no way that the Legion is Nurgle. Khorne is much more appropriate. They are definately red/brass, not green in colour.

On the other hand, I'm quite happy to include Dies Irae in this list. It make's sense and is characterful.

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It seems quite clear that the majority of the Legio went to Nurgle, but that some battlegroups (such as the one in the Storm of Iron book) went to other Gods.

So Legio Mortis may be mostly Nurgle, perhaps even iconically Nurgle, but they are not solely Nurgle.

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i modelled my legio mortis warhounds for 40k the standard scheme, with only a minor implication of nurgle in the banners, i plan on going a lil more into nurgle when i make my reaver, as im fluffing it out to be the "first possessed" reaver of the legio, so he will have more time to become mutated.


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Given that the Legio Mortis for Nurgle has been hanging around for a few years now, I'm still pretty sure its a Nurgle Legion - and the reason I'm willing to believe that Storm of Iron shows only a fraction of what became of the legion, is because I refuse to use any Legion that hasn't been given a Latin 'Legio' name and thusly has been modernised into the new era of Fluff, hense why the Burning Skulls survive the cut as they are now noted as the Legio Magda.

The Dies Irae on the other hand leaves stage left via some level of agreement with the points regarding using named units.

In responce to Flogus,

+3 not 3+, Three Plus meens that you can technically only have one Favoured Titan in an army +3 meens that you can have one Favoured Titan for every three Battle Titans.

Given I just came up with the term 'Favoured Titan' I'm suprised I'm having my fanon dictated at me :p

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