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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:06 pm 
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For my Titan game in production I gave those sizes:
Blitzkrieg: 60mm diameter base
ordinary objectives: 40mm diameter base
(My objectives have other names of course, but placement is pretty much the same.)
Ok, the rules are different (objectives are to be destroyed, not conquered), which means it's absolutely okay if an objective covers an area. But one intention is that the "Blitzkrieg" is more important and should look more impressive.




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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:09 pm 
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We still measure to the centre of the objective as the only fair method.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:13 pm 
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Quote: (Evil and Chaos @ 18 Jun. 2009, 11:09 )

We still measure to the centre of the objective as the only fair method.

Ditto.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:18 pm 
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Quote: (Hena @ 18 Jun. 2009, 18:12 )

Same here except for blitz which I measure from centre point of table edge :smile:.

Indeed that's done here too, you measure to the centre of the objective then draw a line to the table edge

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:26 pm 
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If I had the patience I'd make 2 titan base size ones and one half titan sized one, all with a flag or similar marking the middle. Maybe a deathstrike launching from each and the blitz a C&C centre.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:26 am 
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Quote: (Dwarf Supreme @ 18 Jun. 2009, 16:13 )

Quote: (Evil and Chaos @ 18 Jun. 2009, 11:09 )

We still measure to the centre of the objective as the only fair method.

Ditto.

the thing is if there was a standard size for all objectives  (which im neither for or against this is just a reply for the sake of something to type)  then since everyones base sizes are the same then you could measure from edges with no pentaly to either side or the centre, right ?   it just means deciding prior to the game.

My 2 cents


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p.s.   also if your using 60 mm titan bases and do a crashed flyer or titan etc, thats a fairly sizable feature can you claim cover from it ?

personally i use 40m squares.

ok now im really done


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:40 pm 
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Quote: (Tim_the_titan @ 19 Jun. 2009, 03:26 )

thats a fairly sizable feature can you claim cover from it ?

Unless directly and specifically agreed upon in the 5-min warm-up, objectives are *NOT* terrain features, merely markers.

personally i use 40m squares.


I use 40mm round bases for my objectives.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:12 pm 
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Quote: (Chroma @ 19 Jun. 2009, 12:40 )

Quote: (Tim_the_titan @ 19 Jun. 2009, 03:26 )

thats a fairly sizable feature can you claim cover from it ?

Unless directly and specifically agreed upon in the 5-min warm-up, objectives are *NOT* terrain features, merely markers.

must have missed that part. lol

still ive seen people put alot of effort into some fantastic objectives. just nice to add some fluff to the game, im all about the fluff and flavor of the games when i play personally, even to the extent of fielding poorly designed armies just to have something pretty or themed on the table , haha

i like the dea of being able to claim cover from apropriate objectives, eg: thunderhawk down men huddled in tight on the wounded  laying down covering fire and using the crashed aircreft as a small bunker, just gives a nice feel imo.

but every plays for diffrent reasons so i guess the 5 min warm up period caters for that in regards to deciding whats what.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:20 pm 
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If you want to play objectives as terrain features, there's nothing to stop you doing so, it's just that by default they're not.

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I fail to understand why measuring to the center is "the only fair way to do it."  If you're fighting over a 30cm circle or a 34cm circle, both sides capture or contest on the same ground.  I can't think of a single time in any game when I thought "If we measured this differently, the game would have been won/lost."

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Let's say one side has pin-pricks, and the other side has 60cm circles... it stands to reason that it'll be easier to capture (and contest) the objectives on one side.

Perhaps 'fair' is the wrong word, and 'balanced' would be better.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 2:00 pm 
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Quote: (nealhunt @ 19 Jun. 2009, 13:45 )

I fail to understand why measuring to the center is "the only fair way to do it."  If you're fighting over a 30cm circle or a 34cm circle, both sides capture or contest on the same ground.  I can't think of a single time in any game when I thought "If we measured this differently, the game would have been won/lost."

Objective "size" also provides for further garrisoning distance and places limits on where opponents can put their objectives.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 2:05 pm 
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Quote: (nealhunt @ 19 Jun. 2009, 13:45 )

I can't think of a single time in any game when I thought "If we measured this differently, the game would have been won/lost."

This specifically came up in the recent Tau vs Titans game some friends played here.

Going by "point of contact" on the edge of the table, the Titan player *didn't* have Blitzkrieg and going by the 40mm objective's outer diamter he *would* have had Blitzkrieg.

We went with "point of contact".

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Quote: (Chroma @ 19 Jun. 2009, 14:05 )

Quote: (nealhunt @ 19 Jun. 2009, 13:45 )

I can't think of a single time in any game when I thought "If we measured this differently, the game would have been won/lost."

This specifically came up in the recent Tau vs Titans game some friends played here.

Going by "point of contact" on the edge of the table, the Titan player *didn't* have Blitzkrieg and going by the 40mm objective's outer diamter he *would* have had Blitzkrieg.

We went with "point of contact".

Aye this happens all the time.

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