I kind of said that, didn't I?

edit: though it depends what do you mean by 'together'. They belong to different formations normally.

Technically, yes.  You're in formation for the assault.

However, there is a large caveat.  At the end of the assault resolution the formations become independent formations.  An Assault Marine no longer counts for formation for the Death Company and vice versa.  Each formation must move back into coherency with their next move.  If they cannot reach formation coherency, then part of the formation is destroyed per the movement rules (1.7.4?).

Since the next move happens to be only a 5cm consolidation move (assuming they win), it's impossible for them to get back in coherency.  You're going to lose a lot of units for being out of formation, pick up the BMs for those losses and likely break everyone left alive.

If they lose the assault they can reach it easily on the withdrawal moves, but you have other problems in that case...

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Oh. Ouch. I thought Move in that case meant a real Move, not the wimpy 5cm consolidation. That's certainly something to think about.

The answer is 'possibly', though it is unlikely that you would find a target formation set up in a circle large enough for this to be sensible

Basically you consider each unit in turn using that unit's attributes when considering coherency. So under 1.2.1 a normal unit must be within 5cms of at least one other unit from the formation, while a scout unit must be within 20cm of a friend, and a WE must be within (5cm x DC) of a friend.

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Sir Hemry Newbolt

Nope.  Aside from explicitly noted exceptions, charge, countercharge, and consolidation all use the basic move rules.

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Neal

Oh, and a 'move' is just that - so marching is three 'moves', Withdrawing is two 'moves' and consolidating also counts as a move.

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Sir Hemry Newbolt

So, always "move carefully" when counter-charging/consolidating while in dangerous terrain!

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Well, my friend uses Eldar and loves big reinforced Guardian mobs. Ability to get a relatively wide spread of assault units is useful as you want to drag Wraithguard down into base contact and give Wraithlords a wide berth.

And here you run into Zones of Control. When I use Eldar, depending upon the opposing army a favourite trick is to put the Wraithlords around 7 cm apart with two Support weapons (and sometimes the Farseer) 1-2 cms to their rear, and the rest of the Wraithguards and guardians just behind them. Basically this soaks up the CC abilities of 5-6 enemy units (which must charge into B-B to negate the ZoC of the advanced units) while allowing me to maximise the FF capabilities of the formation. By keeping the depth of the formation around 5cm, Clipping is minimized from that direction. If isolated, form a dense circle with the WG and Support Weapons on the outside.

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Sir Hemry Newbolt

Arrgh, I have enough problems with those blasted undead space elves as they are, don't teach him more tricks

. . . . But such formations are dense by nature (and so very vulnerable to artillery), and also to cross-fire: which is where we came in on an ajacent thread

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You sure about this? Seems rather odd, because it's pretty easy to end up out-of-coherency even after the move since you only get 5cm.

Every unit in a formation must be no further than 5cm
from at least one other unit in the same formation. In
addition, all units must form a ‘chain’ without any gaps of
more than 5cm. Sometimes the units in a formation will
become separated due to enemy fire or assault. When this
happens, the formation must close back up again into a
legal formation when it next takes an action (see 1.6.1).

It's clear in charge/countercharge and the FAQ on 1.12.9 implies that it's a "normal" move as well (emphasis added):
1.12.9
Q: A Transport moves 30cm, unloads
troops who then participate in the
Assault. If they win can the Transport
pick up the units as part of its
Consolidation Move?
A: Yes. The Consolidation Move is
considered a movement and as per section
1.7.5 Transports can pick up units as part
of any movement.

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It's clear in charge/countercharge and the FAQ on 1.12.9 implies that it's a "normal" move as well (emphasis added):
1.12.9
Q: A Transport moves 30cm, unloads
troops who then participate in the
Assault. If they win can the Transport
pick up the units as part of its
Consolidation Move?
A: Yes. The Consolidation Move is
considered a movement and as per section
1.7.5 Transports can pick up units as part
of any movement.

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