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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 9:17 pm 
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Err...where is the Warlorsd Titan on the Epic cover firing at aircrafts? I see Fightabommas and Lightnings engaged in dogfights with each other and the Warlord firing at some distand target somwhere behind the viewer.
The Warlord is been hit (seems to be from Rokkits from an Fightabomma which in turn is chased by a Lighning).

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 9:28 pm 
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I've read through all of this thread and sure there're all sorts of reasons as to why you shouldn't or even should take a titan in your force, but as far as I'm concerned they rock! They're awesome! And anyone who owns the model should take one with every possible chance - unless you have nine super heavies and you take them instead.










- ok I'm not so good at the tactics but my armies look cool!

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 9:30 pm 
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Quote: (nealhunt @ 25 Nov. 2008, 15:11 )

I think everyone's covered the challenges with titans in low-moderate game levels, but I would add one significant issue - territory control.

Oh yeah. That's an important consideration also. How did I forget that?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:31 pm 
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Quote: (nealhunt @ 25 Nov. 2008, 20:11 )

Throwing around BMs is a substantial ability in EA.  The ability to put multiple "coming under fire" BMs plus the kills is pretty darn nasty.  It's mostly in the end game, when a titan has full firepower regardless of damage and many infantry/vehicle formations only need a BM or two to greak that would result in a split-fire titan laying absolute waste to all and sundry.

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I think everyone's covered the challenges with titans in low-moderate game levels, but I would add one significant issue - territory control.

EA GT rules are about controlling terrain.  Titans are tough but they don't cover much frontage, leaving the enemy to maneuver around you and making it hard to do much more than capture a single objective.  It's fine to have some units that are like that, but it's a large portion at 2700-3000 points.  Low speed aggravates that somewhat.

That's also why I think the Eldar Warlock titan fares a bit better.  It's maneuverability and speed give it a large threat area and offset the limited frontage.

A larger titan can be used effectively at lower points, but it's not easy and it requires shaping your entire strategy around the titan.  As has been pointed out, at 3500+ points, those disadvantages rapidly melt away.

That's a very important point, and it's the key reason why I love my Eldar Titans, as they are so much more manoeuvrable that the equivalent class Titans in other armies.

I've yet to try out the Warlock Titan, but I am looking forward to doing so.

I also tend to play games of 4000 points or more, so the issue of 'points sink' doesn't factor in as much as it would do with a smaller army.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 9:51 pm 
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In the end game i think it comes down to this. Either you want to have an army that is designed to win or an army that you will have fun with. In some cases you can have both but not, as the reasons above suggest, when it comes to battle titans in small points.

Personally i love fielding my two warhounds and Superheavy's in low points (soon warlord as well). When i do this i don't expect to win but i have loads of fun stomping around the board. If you listen closely you can hear school-girl giggles coming from across the table lol.

So the best thing i can add to the discussion is when you want to win, design an army to win. When you want to have some fun with your buddies and some laughs, lock & load! Bring out the big toys.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:10 pm 
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Quote: (rose4100 @ 26 Nov. 2008, 14:51 )

So the best thing i can add to the discussion is when you want to win, design an army to win. When you want to have some fun with your buddies and some laughs, lock & load! Bring out the big toys.

I think it's a ploy perpetrated by some dastardly Tau sympathizer to rob us of our big toys because they suffer from Titan Envy! :oo:

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:48 pm 
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I think it's a ploy perpetrated by some dastardly Tau sympathizer to rob us of our big toys because they suffer from Titan Envy! :oo:

-Malakai


Hahahaha i can't agree more! Lowdown dirty Tau ^_^ They can take their Greater Good....

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 1:25 am 
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No titan envy here, if you're going to stand 30m tall on the battlefield, you might as well paint "Target" in neon letters on the chassis.  2 AX10s put paid to most titans, although it may take 2 passes for a Warlord.

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