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Well, thanks to your suggestions we are trying it and it is very useful indeed! ( when i remember to use it anyway  . . . )

Ginger, Thanks for those rules clarifications, with regards to the markerlight one, would that mean that a single stand of firewarriors would be able to light 3-4 formations instead of just the one that it fired at? ( although lighting the entire detachment )
Is this in the SG rules cos it doesn't really go into that much detail in the forgeworld book. Seems a bit strange given that you can't split fire.

ANOTHER two questions from the last game on saturday:
Is supporting fire in an assault, supressed by blast markers? ( I'm pretty sure its not, just making sure. )

I can remember a rule about assault transports with units inside, in that if they had two stands in base contact then the unit is stuck inside and cannot disembark ( even as a reaction to charging ). I am sure i read this somewhere but i'll be damned if i can find it. Is that right?

Suppressing fire due to blast markers. Units are supressed from the back to the front, so if 3 blast markers were on a mechanised company and there were 2 infantry and a chimera in the back row, what would happen?
Would all three be supressed>
Would the chimera, both stands and another two stands be supressed? ( given that only 1 shot between 2 )
My friend is asking if it can ignore the chimera and just supress the next infantry instead ( which is faster to work out )

Hena's right.  If the transport is a WE though there would need to be 2 times it's starting DC of enemy units in base to base contact with the WE to trap the units being transported inside.

Also, if they aren't trapped inside, the transported units wouldn't be able to counter-charge the enemy units in base to base with the WE because those units count as contacting a number of units equal to the WEs starting DC.

Try remembering that in a game.

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Cheers for that Hena, so put vehicles at the front usually? That way they won't be suppressed but would have no problems with firing? But not in assaults. That would silly.
How does suppression work with units that can't actually fire? If a leman russ company had some griffons and 2 blast markers and was firing at a target out of the griffons range, could you still suppress something that can't fire?

I think i have worked out what i was getting confused about now. The text for the FW book and the specialist games PDF are very different:

SG
"All enemy units within 30cm range and LOF of at least one unit with markerlights are considered to be marked. However,
Tau units that are broken or have marched that turn cannot use their markerlights. The action the markerlight unit is carrying
out does not have any impact on guided missiles (except ‘March’, as noted above).
Guided missiles must either be guided by a markerlight or be fired unguided. If they are fired unguided, they follow all the
normal shooting rules. If a missile is guided by a markerlight, the firing unit does not need a line of fire to the target unit and
receives a +1 to hit modifier. However, hits may only be allocated to units from the target formation that are marked by a
markerlight. Apart from that, all the normal shooting rules apply. Tracer missiles which are fired unguided from orbiting
spacecraft may only be targeted at War Engines – Tracer missiles which are fired guided from orbiting batteries function as
normal."
*The markerlight is mentioned in the notes part of the unit card*

FW
"Guided Missiles must be guided by a markerlight to be fired. If they are guided by markerlights, hits may only be allocated to units from the target formation that are within range and line of fire of a unit with markerlights. As long as this requirement is met, the firing unit does not need a line of fire to the target itself, but must still be in range.

The tau unit illuminating the target may not be broken, suppressed or have marched this turn. It doesn't have to belong to the firing formation itself, can be used to illuminate any number of target units, and the action it performs does not alter the markerlight value in any way ( no +1 for sustained fire or -1 for double, for example ), unless specifically stated ( e.g. the +1 to hit with pathfinders multiple markerlights. ) This aside, the normal shooting rules apply."
*The markerlight is in the weapons section of the unit card*

I'm really sorry if i'm sounding a bit pedantic but its the being in the weapons bit that confused me, wasn't sure if i needed to actually fire at a particular formation to use it etc

Dave, . . . uh?  

There are 2 requirements for a unit to be eligible to be suppressed - range and line of sight.  Those are the only requirements listed in the rulebook.

That means the ability to actually fire is not required.  One-shot weapons that have been fired, slow-firing weapons on a non-firing turn, and even small arms weapons that cannot use ranged fire (but do have a 15cm range specified on the datafax) can all be considered suppressed.  All restrictions are irrelevant as long as the unit has range and LoS.

In your question, the Griffons are out of range so they cannot count for suppression.

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