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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 2:06 pm 
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Oh and TRC: scroll the main uk page down and click on the link GW worldwide, from there select the US.

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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 2:08 pm 
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Okay, for those that think this is a good thing - explain to me how losing the Tyranid list, Necron list, OGBM list etc along with things like the reference sheets, training scenario counters etc can be a positive development?

Oh, and apologies for the brief hiatus in my tirade of moaning - I went for my lunch!
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 2:12 pm 
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Okay, for those that think this is a good thing - explain to me how losing the Tyranid list, Necron list, OGBM list etc along with things like the reference sheets, training scenario counters etc can be a positive development?

They aren't lost yet. Maybe they get uploaded to the GW site. Maybe somewhere else. All development will continue.

but


for bfg they did upload a fanatic article about tactics. Pity, since it is bad. ah well

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I was thinking more how to get to the DKr prices - every time I try for Denmark I end up in the UK store. May as well try and order stuff - you never know!

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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 2:35 pm 
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As I understand it, the move of the forum is really the biggest thing to change. Andy, Jervis, the moderators and others will continue to use the relocated SG boards, and the development, structure and other factors will continue.

I wanted to underscore this point.

As an example of continued involvement, Andy stated explicitly that they still wanted the Answer Mods to do their jobs and would still give them their support.

As with CS, I wouldn't call this a great thing, but it's definitely not a disaster.

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As far as "losing" articles or army lists or whatever - I wouldn't expect that to happen.  It's the internet.  Everything is copied and propagated.  Heck, you can get copies of nearly every Epic article in WD/CJ/Firepower/Epic40000 going back to 1990 from someone on this board.

If you want to guard against inconvenience, copy what you want now.

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As far as I can tell, this move has been caused as a consquence of technical issues.

The new-website cannot host the forum - oops! Oh well we had better move it then.

The main SG website and all it's content doesn't have to go anywhere, unless GW just happen to want to dump it. Are they doing that?

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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 3:12 pm 
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Someone should tell that to Archive.Org, which has the main GW website (As well as Armageddon3 and much of the SG website) archived going ten years back or more.

They don't have most of the SG articles though.

Unfortunately they don't have any of the old pictures archived from the a3 site.

Anyway, I'm sad to see the SG site go.  Hopefully all the content will be up on the new site, along with all the other articles that used to be there. As an added precaution though I just downloaded all 600 some PDFs/files (I love grep).

I hope the new forum works out and new/old content and still be developed.

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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 3:16 pm 
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Well, this explains why I got an error message when i tried to get on the SG forum yesterday. To be honest, I can't say I'd miss the SG forum, because this forum is far more active. However, it was nice having a link to TacComm on the SG forum to make more players aware of our community.

I'm trying to be optimistic about this change. Having SG on the main GW site is theoretically a good thing, but the pessimist in me is saying that this is just a temporary move until SG gets canned completely.

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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 3:36 pm 
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I was thinking more how to get to the DKr prices - every time I try for Denmark I end up in the UK store. May as well try and order stuff - you never know!

Dunno. Could be looking at your IP address r something like that. When asked to pick a country I chose DK and was forwarded with no problem.

E&C is right about the pirces though: I ordered some stuff and was charged more than was on my order reciept. When asking about it I was told that the prices had changed. (IRRC it was regarind the BFG plastic weapon spures which were listed at the same price in the catalogue but with two diferent prices later on)

IIRC GW reserves the right to change prices/incorrect pricing in the store. Werther that'd stand up according to Danish laws of marketing is a different matter. I once got a mobile phone much cheaper because the store had accidentally set a wrong price at the website.

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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 3:37 pm 
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I'm trying to be optimistic about this change. Having SG on the main GW site is theoretically a good thing, but the pessimist in me is saying that this is just a temporary move until SG gets canned completely.

If that were the plan then, well 'the plan', makes no sense at all.  Why go to all the trouble of rearranging the setup just to have to delete it later?

A little paranoia creeping in there, methinks  :;):

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IIRC GW reserves the right to change prices/incorrect pricing in the store. Werther that'd stand up according to Danish laws of marketing is a different matter. I once got a mobile phone much cheaper because the store had accidentally set a wrong price at the website.

If Danish laws on the matter work like English laws, then GW are not held to pricing errors.  They might be honoured, to stop complaints, but that's up to the retailer.

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If that were the plan then, well 'the plan', makes no sense at all. ?Why go to all the trouble of rearranging the setup just to have to delete it later?

A little paranoia creeping in there, methinks ?:;):

Not at all; after all, why go to the trouble of setting up Fanatic, if you're not going to support it? But that's what GW did.
Of course SG content is currently on the GW site - they still have stock to shift. What'll happen when is sold, if another question...
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IIRC GW reserves the right to change prices/incorrect pricing in the store. Werther that'd stand up according to Danish laws of marketing is a different matter. I once got a mobile phone much cheaper because the store had accidentally set a wrong price at the website.

If Danish laws on the matter work like English laws, then GW are not held to pricing errors. ?They might be honoured, to stop complaints, but that's up to the retailer.

You're probably right :)
Regardless I was hit by Nemesis afterwards: The mobile phone was a 3g phone just when they were coming out. I've never before or since had that much trouble with a cell phone and/or operator. :p




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I'm trying to be optimistic about this change. Having SG on the main GW site is theoretically a good thing, but the pessimist in me is saying that this is just a temporary move until SG gets canned completely.

If that were the plan then, well 'the plan', makes no sense at all.  Why go to all the trouble of rearranging the setup just to have to delete it later?

A little paranoia creeping in there, methinks  :;):

Since when does GW do things that make sense?  :D

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Dont get me started on 3G mobiles. I actually took my first 3G carrier to the mobile watchdog - and won - because the service was so bad.

As far as I am aware, E&C actually has it backwards. Goods in a store are not required to be sold at the price advertised, and that this is an 'initial bargaining position'. Goods in a window (and this includes websites as 'shop windows') should be sold at the price advertised. I would need to check this out, though, and there may be additional law and 'we reserve the right to alter prices' small print in the web sites themselves.

Anyway, I consulted with Andy regarding other material on the SG site. He has given me permission to quote his response...

All Online rulebooks and a selection of articles for each game will/are available on the new website and will remain so. The articles that haven't been ported across, well, people have had plenty of time to download them and if they're still haven't got hold of them there's no immediate plans to turn the Fanatic SG website off. In fact it'll be around for 4-6 months, so there's plenty of time to access that content.

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