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Sir Hemry Newbolt

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Epic: Hive Development Thread

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I'm reviving this thread to give you guys a brief overview of the "French-ERC" situation:

Rules

The F-ERC rulebook is a translation of Marckonz's 2008 Handbook. As far as I know, there are no modifications of the handbook. So the core stays the same and everybody is still playing the same game.

Army Lists

"Ah, there's the rub."  

Most lists have been changed in one way or another by the F-ERC. Theses changes concern mostly unit stats, with a few organisational modifications of the army lists themselves. I'll try to do a recap of these changes in each appropriate section of the forum over the next few days.

So, the situation is not as bad as people may think: everybody is still playing the same game, just not with the same army lists.

By the way, since I'm fluent in French and English AND active on both forum, I'm more than willing to act as a go-between if necessary. As I said, I'll make a list of the F-ERC changes, army by army. Feel free to PM me for more info or if you want me to translate a message for the French community.

As the handbook contained all the proposed changes, and many of these were not included in the GW 2008 review we are playing a slightly different version of Epic.

It would be interesting to see what you have done to lists especially the lists that are still under work here.

Note that almost all games from this board are now NOT being played using the handbook, but rather the official rulebook combined with the 2008 offical rules review. It seems we're not playing the same game after all. The main differences are the MW barrage and Commander changes.

In general the feeling here was that the 2008 rules review got the core rules just about right, and there have been no major moves to modify them since.

Army lists are of course another matter, most people just seem to be doing their own thing on that front frankly...

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Epic: Hive Development Thread

Oh, I wasn't aware of that.

I'm not sure the epic_fr community is either. I'll go find out.  

Just to post an update from me...

I'm the only one in my group who kept up with the fine detail of rule changes but then real life intervened and I couldn't even wargame let alone work on rules.  Thus I passed the Handbook to the NetERC to finalise a Jervis sanctioned revision (that I had almost completed before I had to go on a placement) that was intended to be hosted on the Specialist Games site - which is now defunct of course. Nothing further seems to have happened on that front (that I'm aware of) and I've lost track of what the rules, army lists and where everything was up to. Thus everyone here (in my own group) is still using the 2008 Handbook, plus extra lists from the wiki maintained by Hena, and I think some might be interested in Raiders lists.

If a clearly organised NetERC Handbook/Rulebook is organised I'll probably try and encourage people to gradually switch to that from the 2008 Handbook, just to stick with international consensus. However, nothing seems available at the moment and rules tinkering seems to be ongoing. Really it doesn't bother greatly either, after so much intense study I just want to play Epic for a while at the moment regardless of rules. If some clear revisions are organised maybe I'll aim for a 2009 or 2010 edition Handbook.

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Well IMHO with the 2008 official review published I'd prefer to leave the rules alone for the next year of two. There are still niggles in there but I think its more important to try and get NetERC approved lists for races that don't currently have official list. Nids and Tau would be my initial priority as they either have models available or suitable proxies in the wings (skyth anyone?)

Just to let people know, the NetERC is working on putting together an "updated" rulebook, based on the original EPIC:A rulebook layouts... it's just taking some time, since we're not paid lay-out people... *laugh*

More info to come.

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