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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:14 am 
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I am thinking of building an Epic Deathwing army but I was curious what people though of the effect of an army that could teleport every single unit.

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I was planning to do LRs, Crusaders and Dreads but I wanted to make sure that I wasn't going to assemble an army that no-one wanted to fight against.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 6:58 pm 
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There was a batrep around of 9 Termie formations versus Tau.  It was actually pretty close, but if I remember the comments correctly, that was because the Termies spread out over 2 turns.  I seem to recall both players thought that if they had brought in 7 or 8 first turn instead of 5 that they would have been able to do a lot more damage.

I'd say the best thing to do would be to play a game or two with proxies and see the results before building an army.

I know proxies gall some people (myself included), but for such a specific goal I don't see much other way.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:17 pm 
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Well the army is going to get built :-) I think the issue is how I will play it.

I'll do some test games with some proxy forces ("No, those just look like Chaos terminators") but if it turns out to be a cluster f*ck with all teleporting I will restrict myself to a small number of telporters and then use LRs for the rest

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:52 pm 
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(pixelgeek @ Feb. 04 2008,07:14)
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...an army that could teleport every single unit.

You'd have to play a pretty small game, then. The Deathwing only has a hundred members plus characters, meaning five formations of terminators for 1750 points.

Either that or the Dark Angels have been on a serious promotion spree and borrowed extra suits of terminator armour from fellow chapters. :p
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 11:14 pm 
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Well add a Titan, a Spacecraft and some aircraft and support units.  A formation of LRs would put the whole thing at around 3000 points.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 11:29 pm 
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(pixelgeek @ Feb. 04 2008,22:14)
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Well add a Titan, a Spacecraft and some aircraft and support units. ?A formation of LRs would put the whole thing at around 3000 points.

I've got this mental image of you just deploying a warlord titan to face off against a 3000pt army.

I have to admit, I wouldn't mind playig against an all teleporting army.  It would mean changing tactics, but it would be fun.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 11:35 pm 
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(pixelgeek @ Feb. 04 2008,07:10)
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I was planning to do LRs, Crusaders and Dreads but I wanted to make sure that I wasn't going to assemble an army that no-one wanted to fight against.

If you're going to do it, I'd recommend limiting yourself to 5 formations (the 100 termis of first company), and filling in with other formations as you suggest.

Also for the record, using termis in Landraiders (crusaders using Hena's scions list in my case) I've found to be quite potent. Being able to march 75 and then launch a 30cm assault is pretty brutal.  I thought teleport was everything with termis, but actually transported ones aren't as crap as I thought.

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Five units of Termies, a Battle Barge, two LR detachments and some Commanders is just over 3000.

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I've got this mental image of you just deploying a warlord titan to face off against a 3000pt army.

We've had games where the Marines did just that very thing when playing with Drop Pod armies.

I had a really nasty game against my friedn Tim's Black Templars when he did that.

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Five units of Termies, a Battle Barge, two LR detachments and some Commanders is just over 3000.

What's the point of the Battle Barge?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 8:26 am 
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What's the point of the Battle Barge?

Shooting things on the ground :-)

I don't want to be a cheese monkey so if I am teleporting I want to have something to teleport from.

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Hey, fair enough :)

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:05 pm 
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The Deathwing closely operates with the Ravenwing. So i would stuff some Bikes and Land Speeders in there :)

And perhaby you try out my experimental Dark Angels armylist? *makes puppyeyes*

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