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(Evil and Chaos @ Jan. 29 2008,12:38)
QUOTE - Phase out exists in 40k, BFG, and in their background, and must be reflected somehow in Epic.
True. That is my idea too. My point is "No phase out _redeployment_".
- Necron pylons have the best armour in 40k, complete with special rules that ignore the effects of some of the more powerful shots that hit them (They ignore the second penetration dice from meltaguns, for example... which is directly analygous to ignoring the effect of MW hits).
You do mean monolith? Well, ork nob can have 2+ save, 5+ inv, 2 wound, strenght 8 powerfist etc. Still they have totally different stats in epic (should be exactly like terminators (minus teleport) only more resilent). So, things work differently in epic and 40K.
What if somebody could explain to me why exactly ork nob is so weenie in epic (4 save, should be RA, 2 normal CC attack, other should be macro etc) when necron pet-monolith is better than in 40K (D weapons makes the monoliths go boom). Every nob in my 40K army is tooled like that.
Why is that no-one have found me that little part of fluff from any Necron Book/Codex which justifies that pop out, pop back phase-out redeployment? Is it because it does not exist? So, drop that phase-out redebloyment and make them stay out if they phase-out.
Quotes from Corey:
1.) ?If you and the people you play with aren't willing to play an army, or play against it to test, you are unable to add any useful, objective data. Opinions that are based on theory are neither useful or objective, though they may be insightful. ?I'm not going to make changes based on Theory. ?If you think something is wrong, play it out over a few games and give me data!!!!!!!
?k. Keep your list. I shall not make necrons, or play against them if this is attitude toward list building.
Just have to wait either that GW/SG starts to make this list themselves (yeah, right) or that Army Champion changes. Pity.
5.) As for phase out: ?an entire game of 40k is only the time equivilent of one single assault in Epic. ?So like 40k, when the Necron lose that assault and get broken (they are 'defeated') they phase out, returning to the Tomb Complex on some Tomb World to be re-organized and sent out once more. ?And sometimes those units are too badly disorganized to be sent back quickly, and may never be ready until the battle is over... i.e. they don't rally.
You invented that on yourself, or do you have that pagenumber from codex I have been looking for?
If you won't play them, and people won't play against them you have absolutely no room to complain about how the rules are working out because you are refusing to get involved in the process of development.
If you want to develope something, then hear what people says, hear their reasons, try to get as many opinions as possible. But then again, I shall not waste time on necrons anymore. In Finland we have proverb: "pit?k?? tunkkinne!". If necron-fanboys dont want to hear/listen to other opinions, it is their own shame. When army champion does the same, it is shame to whole game.
P.S. I have feeling that somepeople thinks that I just whine about Pylons and have never played against them. But I have.
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