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E-A Straw Poll About Formation Size |
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nealhunt
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Post subject: E-A Straw Poll About Formation Size  Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 5:55 pm |
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Jervis asked for a straw poll about whether taking lots of small formations is a rules loophole that creates unbalanced armies.
If you're a member of the playtest board, please go vote.
Especially you guys that think Orks should have the Big Formation rule repealed. 
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MaksimSmelchak
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Post subject: E-A Straw Poll About Formation Size Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 12:33 am |
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Tas
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Post subject: E-A Straw Poll About Formation Size Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:54 am |
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Legion 4
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Post subject: E-A Straw Poll About Formation Size Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 4:49 am |
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Just a few observations from an "Alter Kampfer."?Small units like 4-6 stands are more easily suppressed.
Who said something like "God favors the large Battalions?"
That being said, that really should not be a problem once you realize that your 6 stand SM unit will probably get "hosed" by a 9 stand IG unit if he wins the initiative.
However one of your remaining SM units will get the chance to shot back. ?
Be advised I've been using activation by unit since SM-1, my first rule mod to the game in '90, so I have some experience in this system.
What I do see as a problem is the Initiative Values, most likely the SMs will get first shot too often, we won't use them.
There are other ways to show SM C&C is better than the IG and Orks, etc.
Just my thoughts... do what works for you...
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Tas
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Post subject: E-A Straw Poll About Formation Size Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 6:16 am |
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| Quote (Legion 4 @ 05 2003 Sep.,13:49) | | There are other ways to show SM C&C is better than the IG and Orks, etc. |
I'd like to see you take and how you think this could be done better than with Initiatives. Morale was the factor back in SM2 as I recall.
And yes I am a big fan of sequenced activations as well. Its the eternal balance between
A) Lots of small easily broken formations, but better tactical flexiblity through more activations; OR
B) Less large robust formations but reduced flexibility. That flexibility is further stunted by the "No Split Fire" function in EA
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Legion 4
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Post subject: E-A Straw Poll About Formation Size Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 4:15 pm |
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Well part of it is that command stands have a command radius and function as "command" units, not just add a bonus to Close Combat.
Plus a unit's ability to regroup, break point and leader loss morale as in SM-1 and 2, are based on their race. But that is more detailed than just initiative values.
However, it does come down to a matter of taste, like many things in Epic...
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Dooglebug
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Post subject: E-A Straw Poll About Formation Size Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2003 5:29 pm |
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I personally would say it's a fine balance of dancing with the enemy with your small foramtions playing with him until the right time arises to unleash your sledge hammer formations in a hard and fast co-ordinated assault to shatter as part of the enemy line.
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Legion 4
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Post subject: E-A Straw Poll About Formation Size Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 4:11 am |
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That basically has been the plan of every Commander since groups of men evolved into formations of troops ... the art and science of warfare ... some are better at it than others. Rommel & Patton - good at it. S. Hussain - bad at it.  However, the mechanics of the rule system makes this possible ... or not. 
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