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loofnick
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 3:20 pm 
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Joffo-Wup mentioned a "Space Marine Battles Book" in another thread:

One thing that we possibly do need in NetEpic is a "Hobby Codex".  With this kind of book we can put in terrain building tutorials (as Epic-scale terrain has its own unique techniques), painting schemes, tactical tips and campaign ideas (sort of like the old Space Marine Battles Book).  The addition of your multi-player modus rules into this kind of codex is ideal as it gives players ideas on how to be creative with NetEpic games without introducing it as "rules" (even if only optional).


I reckon it was after my time playing SM. Maybe Titan Legion era? So what actually was in it?  i'm especially wanting scenarios and campaign rules for NetEpic.  Could the stuff in there be re-written for NetEpic? was it much good?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 4:03 pm 
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It WAS SM era, and included a compilation of WD battle reports and astricles - 4 bat-reps, including a nice big Eldar vs Blood Angels (Andy Chambers vs Jervis Johnson) - those were the days! - and stats for Yarrick and Ghazgkul and Space Wolf characters, and instructions for making bunkers and barbed wire. No scenarios, as far as I recall.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:27 pm 
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Pretty sure it had some scenarios to use with all the Fortifications and Barricades....assault, long-ways battles etc.  I'll dust mine off again.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 3:02 am 
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It had the ASSAULT! rules and scenario for use the fortification, hidden set up and dug in rules which were included.  

I think the scenarios Zap123 is thinking about were in WD 172 in the Blood and Fire article.  Rescue Operation, A Bridge Too Far, The Flank Attack, Capture and Hold and Breakout.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:54 am 
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Trots off to get copy....

Contents:
Space Marine tactics section:
The IG
Orks
Imperial Armies
Squats

Battle reports:
Blood Angels vs Chaos
Ghazghkull and Orks vs Yarrick on a Baneblade with Squats
IG vs Eldar
Blood Angels vs Eldar (the one with the plasma meltdown)

New Rules:
Daemon engines of Tzeentch - Silver Towers, Doom Wing, Fire Lord
Epic personalities: Njal Stormcaller, Ragnar Blackmane, Ulrik the Slayer, Ghazghkull, Yarrick
Imperial Titan Weapons (all the weird and wonderful stuff such as Harpoon missiles, Corvus heads etc.
Warhound data card
Reaver data card
Reaver + Warhound damage tables
Gargants
Gargant data card
Gargant damage table
Great Gargant army cards
Assault - new rules for attack and defence
Attack and defence tactics
Razor wire and minefield counters
fortification cards

Modelling:
Epic fortifications
Strongholds

Catalogue pages

Card data sheets and templates

So - not a specific cscenario, but rules for minefields, fortifications etc. - well, almost a scenario, anyway :)

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:19 am 
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Cheers guys! especially Vanvlak- filled a few gaps in my knowledge of Epic history :)

Unfortunately it looks to be mostly WD articles, many of the more useful stuff I have, or is in netepic books anyway.  I might want to write up the assault scenario for netepic - it is a scenario (well a style of play anyway- different armies and objectives etc) though I'm not sure it works so well in netepic- not as it was written then

I suppose I was hoping for scenarios based on sensible table sizes rather than the long 8x4's in those ones- I have only 1 room could possibly accommodate such a game if I moved loads of stuff and played on the floor :( Thanks anyway!

Yarrick on a Baneblade with Squats?  The 1st line of a joke, possibly ???
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:23 am 
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(loofnick @ Aug. 13 2007,12:19)
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Yarrick on a Baneblade with Squats?  The 1st line of a joke, possibly ???

Heh  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:
Does sound like one, but it's true. Yarrick is chasing Ghazgkull  and has commandeered a Baneblade, which, being part of a company card, has another pair with him. Mean old Ghazgkull   is hiding (of all places) on a planet crawling with Squats, and Yarrick and the stunties gang up on big bad G.




+++SPOILER WARNING+++





And old man Yarrick gets captured when his Baneblade blows up....

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:41 am 
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Yeah! Gotta love an Orky victory!

**DIRE PUN ALERT!**
And old man Yarrick gets captured when his Baneblade blows up....

I guess he would get the squats in his Baneblade
Really sorry!  :blush:

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Yarrick, Ghazgkull, and some squats walk into a bar... having parked the Baneblade outside...

Has the background improved since then or are the actual details not as bad as V is making it sound?!  :O  :laugh:

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:49 am 
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(loofnick @ Aug. 13 2007,12:41)
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**DIRE PUN ALERT!**
And old man Yarrick gets captured when his Baneblade blows up....

I guess he would get the squats in his Baneblade
Really sorry!  :blush:

Ow, that was a bad 'un...  :laugh:
Markco, it's a litle bit - ah - less interesting than my version, I'd say....  :p

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Sometimes you've just gotta get it out of your system!

Did they ever have Squat (presumably, biker) bars in the official background?  How gay were they?
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Now THAT'S getting close to why the poor stunties were aledgedly dropped in the first place  :laugh:
All pink and sugary for the Nids to tuck into.

I have the Battle book at home but not looked at them in ages, did not one of the other books of the series, Army Book and ???? not have scenarios?

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loofnick
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Apart from the assault scenario, I didn't know of any scenarios- certainly there were none in the main SM or pre-titan legion army books.  I just hoped the battle book might have been the missing piece.

edit: Since the assault scenario isn't included in Netepic, I guessed there might be others missed as well.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:44 pm 
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i have a scenerio its called mega wars and its from the journals its rather cool and you can use it simply for netepic and w40k intermixed sounds fun the give me a heads up and i will transscripe it for you but there is a but it takes a lot of preperation i am using up all my time geting the landscape ready if somebudy is mad enuf to play with me

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(loofnick @ Aug. 13 2007,16:49)
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Apart from the assault scenario, I didn't know of any scenarios- certainly there were none in the main SM or pre-titan legion army books. ?I just hoped the battle book might have been the missing piece.

edit: Since the assault scenario isn't included in Netepic, I guessed there might be others missed as well.

Yeah, WD172 has all the scenarios.  Dug it out, kinda neat.  There is also a later WD (I'm thinking 200) that has special objective counters (cleanse, take and hold, rescue etc) that have different rules and points values.  I remember we tried them and they were kinda fun, but occassionally really unbalancing.

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