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Scouts without Rhinos
LordoftheMilk
 Post subject: Scouts without Rhinos
PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 1:59 pm 
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Hello!

We never understood why scouts got rhinos in Epic, when they never did in 40k or SM/TL.

Also, if they get rhinos, two formations of scouts seem better than one tactical formation, howerver you put it... Not mentioning the fact that Drop Pod Scouts neither make sense nor are balanced.

So we play them at 125 pts. for 4 scout units without rhinos, razorback upgrade or Drop Pod possibility.

We see a lot more tactical units played since that change.

Wotcha think?
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The_Real_Chris
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:01 pm 
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Scouts lack the staying power (though have the edge in CC). Generally the extra firepower, toughness and FF (especially) keep the tacs in there. However if you want to take a lot of possibly garrisonning razorbacks scouts are the cheapest access to them. I still see Tacs outnumbering scouts - though admitably lots of lists if they feature scouts have a fair few formations - or none at all. Clearly they are a bit of all or nothing?

I'd like to see more of neals ideas about raven guard and where people take the black templars though.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:54 am 
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Any Transport options should be taken/available IMO ...

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BlackLegion
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:32 am 
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Do Scouts NEED Rhinos? In most games i see them garrisoned and die during the first two turns. They are good speed bumps or activation boosters but not much else from my experience.
One time i have seen them effectively "snipe" characters and units with dangerous FF-attacks with CC thanks to their Infiltrate special ability (not Sniper!).

I think they don't need Rhinos. Perhabs leave them their DropPods but Teleport would fit too. But this would be too powerful surely :)




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BlackLegion
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:46 am 
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My regular opponend uses Bikes and LandSpeeders for this tactic. Usually its the only survivor of its detachment :D

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Legion 4
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:49 pm 
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Scouts or any SM Infantry type unit should be deployable by Rhino, Razorback, Drop Pod/Ship and we even use the old but totally realistic "Tank Rider" rule ... :D

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