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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:51 pm 
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I'm sure personal hygiene and equipment maint. is part of all SM & IG troopers daily routine !  So hit the showers, clean that PA and field strip clean & lube those Bolters ! :angry: < Imagine the Gunny on MAIL CALL ! >  As far as  CSMs, they are diseased or mutated ... I don't think anything but killing is a priority !  :laugh:  And Carr, you brought up a good point, and IFF (ID Friend or Foe) has always been a concern ... so the short answers is both !  But if you take a look from WWII on ... Camo itself can IFF - I can ID US Army, USMC, UK, etc. by their camo pattern and the weapon they are carrying.  In WWII the UK painted white/red/white stripes on certain locations of they're AFV for IFF. At Normandy, US/UK Aircraft had white/black stripes on fuselage and wings for IFF.    Armbands were also use in the snow of the Eastern Front ... and I can go on ... not to mention electronic IFF ...  The saying we used to say, "If it can be seen, it can be hit, if it can be hit, it can be killed" ...  So camo up ... and use good fieldcraft and IFF techniques ...  (And don't paint anything in circus colors!) :D

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 12:34 am 
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Entirely right, legion 4. ? But if you're well camoflaged, you can't be IFFed either. ?And there are enough horseshoes, handgrenades, and nukes floating around in the Epic BG that you can be hit even if you weren't seen (by friendly fire as well).

The big point about deodorant is really that these are alien beings -- no guarantee that they sense things in the way we do, and therefore little guarantee that visual camoflage would work...

FWIW some IFF in World War II depended on the smell of the cigarettes.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 1:54 am 
Rhetorical question: how can one camoflauge a walking city?
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As a city (from the air/orbit that is).

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Well ... Friendly Fire aka, Blue on Blue Engagement and collateral damage ... around the time of the Korean War ('50-'53) it was estimated that in many engagements/battles from WWII on, that Friendly Fire accounted for up to 25% of the casualites in some cases ... It has become significantly less with each War/Conflict since then. Being in the low single digits or less ... ?So in the future even in the the 40K Universe, it should be low ... ? ?And hopefully your commander & his staff will have come up with good enough plan to attempt to insure that you do not have any fratricide ... ?Or limit it ... ? ? ? ? ? We were trained in RL not to use anything that could have a scent (like deodorant, soap, tobacco, etc.) when on patrol/field Ops, etc. ... Now in the sci-fi you may not know if the Xenos have better senses of smell, vision, etc. ... But a good military commander, regardless does not take anything for granted or under estimate his enemy ... ?So camo, ECM, OPSEC, light and noise discipline, cover & concealment, etc. increases your chances of accomplishing your mission and getting as many of our troops back alive ... But as always Do What Works For You ... DWWFY - So if that means painting toy soldiers in circus color "works"; then go for it ! ?:;):




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Incidentally never camo your beetlebacks to be seen as buildings from space.

Walking buildings in Urban area = missing titans actions during turn! (Oh how blind am I? And of course the opponent can see them perfectly well!)

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Indeed ! :alien:

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(Otterman @ Apr. 07 2007,02:54)
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Rhetorical question: how can one camoflauge a walking city?

Well, my only completed Chaos Titan comes complete with flock and temple ruins.... and now this thread has given me a beter idea....  :devil:

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So if that means painting toy soldiers in circus color "works"; then go for it ! ?:;):

The other question: how much mud and grime should go on over the circus colors.  

It's always interesting to look at collections of Napoleonic miniatures -- minutely accurate, facings colored to match company and battalion... and bright white pants...

(how many miles of marching would that last?)
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Well, "weathering" has always been an option for modeling ... Believe me, AFVs, uniforms, etc. can get pretty grimy during Ops ... Now in up to the late 19th Century, uniforms we in bright colors to ID who and what, by Army, like Red Coats, etc. !  I'm sure personal hygiene and cleaning in general was minimal at best ... So no matter what period ... if "weathering" works for you - DWWFY - just do it !  :laugh:

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Hey I prefer the circus colours ( only for SM) and for IG tac colours, by this way I have the two methods.

Obviusly circus colours for the eldars.
green red yellow and black for the orks



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As L4 says paint what you want !!  :D  :D the main objective is be haaaappy with your army!(it sounds like promotional spaces!  :D )

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Yes, Bans DWWFY ! "Don't worry, be happy !"  :D  And I've been thinking about how to camo a Walking City ... well short of a cloaking device ... while moving, I don't think you can ?  When it's stopped ... you'd camo it like any other big thing  ?!  :D

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Hide the legs and it can pretend to be a city.

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Brilliant !!!  Hiding out in the open ! :D

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