(OzTenaka @ Mar. 24 2007,17:31)

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Should the ones below be added? if so stats?

New units -

Land Raider Helios (the one with the whirlwind turret?)

Space Marine Landing Craft. (did I mention it earlier not sure!)

New unit -

SM Veteran normal bike.  Just to use the nice AT era biker with sword!    

There is an Attack Bike Veteran unit listed in SM list for the White Scars. Is this for a different veteran bike squad?

(OzTenaka @ Mar. 26 2007,06:11)

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None of these units appear in the Optionals book

so we will need to come up with some stats

(Mojarn Piett @ Mar. 26 2007,03:48)

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I made some experimental stats for Land Raider Helios and Prometheus as well as Damocles Rhino for Incoming! #21. As usual, I didn't get any playtesting data so I have no idea if they are balanced or not.

(zap123 @ Mar. 25 2007,23:34)

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We would also need points cost.  Are we looking at adding new stuff (as opposed to accidentally ommitted stuff) as part of the Errata process?  Should that be covered by the Gold version developers?

Helios stats easy...standard LR + additional attack using the Whirlwind stats.  Detachment cost....450 points (combines LR and WW + 50 point penalty for saving a slot)....or something like that.

Dropship - same stats as the T-Hawk but without the Battlecannon and PD(9).  Able to transport 2 detachments of Marines including their vehicles (to a total of 18 and a maximum of 6 vehicles).  Cost....300?

Just use the old bike dude as a standard Bike Co. command unit.

(loofnick @ Mar. 27 2007,17:11)

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The suggested Landing Craft sounds good.  But can we make super-heavy, or have 2 shields?  It's alot of units to lose if a single AA shot can bring it down.

Also, I did notice there are optional rules in a .doc file on the Yahoo site (in the root directory) for the Landing Craft.  It descibes it as E:A landing craft, but the rules are for NetEpic.
It has hit location templates, and probably a few too many rules (or too much fluff at least).  Don't know if anyone's used it.  If it's going to be preatorian class I guess it could do with quite a bit of discussion and trial before being used, so probably not worth worring about for the errata.

Really would like it to be 'superheavy' though, even with the 3+ save.  The size must make it worth.

(loofnick @ Aug. 03 2007,17:24)

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I know this thread been away a while, but checking through Ulmo's army cards brought up a few more errors.  Not sure about the 4th- please comment.

1.  contents for White Scars Veteran Bike Company p31 should read 'Veteran Attack Bike squads', the same for the White Scars Battle company.  Unless the support card was supposed to be vet bikes, and they were just missed in the unit summary. Actually no-one else is listed as using Vet attack bikes, so it must be theirs.

2.  Dark Angels Veteran Landspeeders are missing from the unit summary.  Description says they should be Landspeeders with a fixed save and elite.

3.  Hatamoto Company is listed as 850 pt, 13 VPs.  Should be 9 VP's.

4.  should Desert Lions have higher break point?  Assuming normal Robots are reverted to their old break point of 4 then this company should be break point of 12. Though it has a HQ unit to muddy the water.