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Here's my suggestioHenas changes for 7.1 (v7.1-h1)
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:33 pm 
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(Hena @ Jan. 24 2007,12:30)
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Aye but a Gargant will have more DC, and is not a psychic conduit the size of a tower block. :D

Hey! This is orks we are talking about ... it's exactly that :D.

lol :D

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(Hena @ Jan. 24 2007,09:28)
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For Nexus. At the moment one pays full price on warriors and 50% on tyrant. With 175 that would be 25 point tyrant ... somehow that doesn't sit so well here.

Actually, the Nexus is two Tyranid Warriors and one Hive Tyrant, so you've got no "discount" at all at 200 points.

The vulnerability of having AVs and INF, despite the better spawning ability, is certainly worth a 25 reduction to 175.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:59 pm 
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I think it's worth mentioning that I favour changing the BTS condition from 'must destroy 50% of the synapse creatures' to 'must destroy more than 50% synapse creatures points cost', or words to that effect.

Basically, it's silly that killing a Harridan or Dominatrix is worth the same towards the BTS goal as killing a stand of Warriors.

Going by points cost would fix that (And would generally mean that killing a Dominatrix is enough for the BTS on its own, unless the game is very large!).

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(Hena @ Jan. 24 2007,12:56)
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Humhum. Alright now it's worth to consider it. Any chance for you to try this out?

I'm happy to playtest this formation a few times. I've never used it before.

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I'm fine with the BTS being points-based really.

It's not that hard to work out (You're only going to have 4-6 synapse groups generally, and anyone above the age of ten can keep track of the points you're dealing with there), and it just 'feels' better to have the bigger Sypanse nexi (Like Dominatrices, Harridans, etc) worth considerably more to the Hive mind.

Having it based on DC in the manner you propose strikes me as an unacceptable halfway-house (A Harridan is still worth 1, but 3 warriors are worth 3).

Points is simple, easy to use, and intuitive.




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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:00 pm 
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Actually having BTS done on DC means a Harridan is worth 3 towards BTS not 1 (1 per DC).

Points or DC seems equally viable to me.


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Basing it on full DC would be better.

So 3 warrior bases are worth 3.
One Harridan is worth 3.
One Dominatrix is worth 6 (WYSIWYG revision version)

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Agreed - why not full DCs?




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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:19 pm 
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Killing 3 warriors is harder than killing a single Dominatrix. :D

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(Evil and Chaos @ Jan. 24 2007,15:19)
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Killing 3 warriors is harder than killing a single Dominatrix. :D

You mean killing 3 groups of 3 Tyranid Warriors and a Lesser Synapse Node is more difficult than killing a single Dominatrix... ?those are both 500 points of Synapse...  :laugh:

And 10 units vs 8 (or 6) DC.




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Hmm I see...

Well maybe working it out on points killed is the way to go then for BTS..

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