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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 5:27 am 
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[quote="zap123,Nov. 30 2006,19:07"][/quote]
I'd suggest any of the DRM Andrayada mega walkers as the Necron Titan....the Majestic is my fave but it might be a twee tall. ?I have no idea what the creator had in mind for the SLANN titans, but perhaps some of the CAV range:

SLANN Titan 1
SLANN titan 2
SLANN Titan 3

I have looked at those and and like the first two but don't know what size they are. There are a lot of posibilities. Each titan is also a work of art so everyone could be different. I am trying to use the templates to make up some ideas. Then I hope to have a local artist try something from there. I don't have the resources to buy a bunch of samples.

The Andrayada troops are the obvious choice for Necron proxies, and the Kraytonians as Dracons. ? Already have several packs of Necrons. ?:p

For SLANN themselves, I could mock up some of the Battlesuits from the WizKids Mechwarrior infantry, and you could use the various DRM Kraytonian subjects as proxies for the SLANN vehicles. ?There are some GZG infantry with bulbous helmets that might do ok as SLANN foot troops. ?I could paint up a stand or two, and make a couple of stands of battlesuits if you'd like.
I am not familiar with WizKids Mechwarrior infantry.? What are they?
I have started converting old plastic robots to Slann battle suits but there have been so many good new figs lately. Has anyone seen the Baccus Cmd Horizon walkers? I like the shpe but have no idea of the size.

If you would like to give something a try, go for it. Once I get some figures I can work prety fast. ?I will try to scrape a $100 out of the January budget foor some figures. I hadn't planned on the Exodus Slann and Dracons at the moment so if you would like to try some of them it would spread out the work. ?Kraytonians would work good there. I think some of the Warhammer 10mm guys would fit in also, for the big guys.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 2:14 am 
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Ok, here are some Slann prototypes as discussed:



From L to R:  Gravguard Battlesuit, Spawnguard battlesuit, Vanguard battlesuit, Exodus Warrior.

First three are respectively Purifier, Hauberk and Undine battlearmour from WK's Mechwarrior CMG.  You can pick this guys up for nothing on Fleabay so it'd be a cheap army.  The Exodus are NAC Troopers from GZG...I painted the stand in literally 2 minutes, but you can get the idea I hope.

My Exodite conversions might also stand as proxies for the various cavalry units.  This photo is a quickie so isn't cropped at all, but gives you the gist.  Could be Dracon Temple Guards and Exodus Raptor riders respectively.



And these could be Cold One riders:



(at least in the absence of anything else...

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:28 pm 
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Very nice!
I really like your 'cold one riders'. Are they all conversions from the 'Chaos'  sprue? I have a grand toral of 4 of those figures. :(

Do you have other Exodus and Dracon figs? I think the 'cold one riders'  gould very well be used in the fotos. The Space Marine book uses photos of each unit with their description. It woud be good to have army photos but unit photos are prety much 'must haves'.

I have most of the Slann book text tentatively formated with spaces for photos and such. I think photos and art work will make or break the book and I am very hopeful that we can deliver on that.

I have converted several of the old plastic robots into Slann battlesuits with weapons to fit their profile. My army plan was originally to have the Slann represented but the mass of the army being Necron and adding from there. All of the new minis have had me thinking again. I hate it when that happens. It usually means buying more minis. :)

I need a favor if you would. Please explain how you up load photos to here. I have tried and tried with zero success rate. I usually end up posting on one of the yahoo groups. Frustrating sometimes.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 6:05 pm 
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hi Gary, what kind of artwork you need?

Let me know what you need I try help you as I can.

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Thanks Bans,

I can use just about anything for fillers for the pages.

Something that looks like reptillian but high tech.  I am trying to do something with the Titans as soon as I get some clarification on the templates. It seems that the side views of the Komodo Dragon and Razorfang might be a little scrambled. (easy to fix but waiting for permission to do so)

I got a bit of a laugh out of my first sketch. I just used the template to sketch it. When I looked at it it looked like a big gorilla. ;)
I don't think that fits.  :laugh:
I had a twin turret on top and the shape of the bridge looked like a mouth from the front.

I think we are going to get some good photos (I hope) of the units but not sure about an army.

I have 42 converted plastic robots for battle suits . Color skeem for them is dark green with details picked out in red and yellow. The Necrons will be basicly black.
I have concidered swithching to some of the new DRM figs but once again, I don't have the finances to start over and expect to finish anything.

I am hoping for help from others for the Exodus Slann and Dracons.  I would like to do them but it just isn't feasable for me at the moment.

Chris, or anyone... what is the stencil font you are using and where can I get it? I have a couple but they don't match the other one.

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Hi Gary,

For posting pics, I use Photobucket and just post the link here.  Fairly straightforward way to do it.  I think you can upload photos directly here but I've never tried it.

The Exodus inf. stand I just knocked up for you.  The various "Dragon riders" are all meant for my Eldar Exodite army, but apart from the "very Eldar" helmet, would work ok as Exodus Slann and Dracon Cav.  I could probably also create a stand of each mocked up with a different, Slann-like, helmet just for you.  I'll probably order some DRM Kraytonians soon so if you have time I could really "lizardify" them :)

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Thanks Zap,
I thought they looked a bit like Eldar. :)

Have been painting a bit on the Slann and Necrons.I have 2 companies and 2 detachments of Battle suits. That is a lot of robots. I did not do much conversion on the last batch. I have my eye on some of the new minis but these will be ok for now.

I am fairly sure that I am going to use 4 necrons per stand. Five just looks to crowded. It also stretches my supply of minis.
I am still working on designs for the Praetorians and Titans. I don't like the Necron Annihilator. Three sets of tracks???  Why an advanced race would build such a thing. Still playing around so maybe I will come up with something.

Ok, general question for anyone.....

Is there anything that says a main battle tank has to be big?
The DRM Hubries come in two versions.One can fit the Tormentor and the other the Punisher. They are the ones without turrets or transport ability.
Very high tech. The weapons of the two fit pk. The armour is a combination material angle and just hard to hit the small profile.
My biggest argument is that I just like them and want to use them. :)

I haven't picked a transport (APC) yet.

I know NetEpic Necron vehicles are not classed as skimmers but doesn't have to mean they are not. (they just can't pop-up). We are dealing with thousands or even millions of years, and spread out all over the galaxy. The technology may be the same but the army may not look the same. One other thing is that the Slann tend to look at everything as a work of art. All excused to go with what you feel.

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Sorry, but Hubries as a vehicle class unit doesn't work for me.....they're not really big enough to even be a walker.  Are you using the Kraytonian vehicles for Necrons?

Some of the DRM buggies are great for the Exodus Slann.

Still casting about for what to use for the Slann knights and titans.

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Well I will do a "very personal" slann point of view, because I don't know that the slann army goes to same way to a possible kraitonian (DRM) army, yes the two are lizar races but they are not the same!!!

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I will post some artwork sooner, today I finished my cisco certification course ( CCDA + Unity specialization)  :)

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Slann are Frogs....they probably get insulted if you call them lizards :)

The True Slann don't have any vehicles, and the Exodus Slann are more low tech...hence the buggies.

I only picked the Kray vehicles (for Necrons) as they are about the only "hi-tech" line of vehicles in 6mm heroic scale available, and they do have a bit of an android look about them.  Of course, the 40K cannon Necron's have moved past what was created in the Netepic 5.0 list, so you could throw out all the vehicles in there a start afresh with Monoliths (errk!!).

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Hi Zap,

Well it may change later but I have finished the Slann and Necron infantry. Also the Hubries. They really look good. Will try to get some photos.

I wish the Hubries were a bit larger but... Necrons are living machines. There is no need for them to be large. No one has to fit into it. I really wish they were twice the size.

I have not decided on vehicles. I am looking at several. Yes buggies! :) but for me, they are in the future. I am only working on True Slann and Necrons. I am really thinking hover vehicles.

I really don't care for the EA Necrons. They have inspired some really nice conversions though.  I just can't get into "the living dead" theme. I am to much into the Slann and as Necron servants (allies) from NetEpic.

I am working on Titian ideas.  The Annihilator Battle Fortress is giving me problems. Having some knowledge of tracked vehicles, A vehicle with three sets of tracks is a bit impossible. It would only be usable on relatively flat ground and would be nearly impossible to turn.  (tried to make a mock up to see how the tracks could work for turning but no luck.)  I have been going with the assumption of a one piece hull. A two piece hull just might be the answer.  Three independent sets of tracks (each capable of turning). Actually something simular to a Squat Land Train. (very different look though).

back to the Hubries size again.... Slann are the oldest known race in the universe. They had a hand in clutivating the other races and techologies.
Why would they build big bulky vehicles? The Necron vehicles are entities, not crewed vehicles.  APCs need to be larger to transport units but not so for tanks.
Yes, everyone likes to see big tanks but there is no necessity for it. :)

Lots of ideas for Slann Mechs(some are way out of my budget). Still trying to come up with some skethces for the Titans.

I think some of the DRM figs will work good as some of the Dracons. Need three basic types. Big (Kroxigor), not so big (Suarus) and smaller (Skinks.) I am not sure if DRM has all three.

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The Annihilator Battle Fortress is giving me problems. Having some knowledge of tracked vehicles, A vehicle with three sets of tracks is a bit impossible. It would only be usable on relatively flat ground and would be nearly impossible to turn. ?(tried to make a mock up to see how the tracks could work for turning but no luck.) ?

I figured it'd work just like a normal tank...make one side of tracks move faster than the other side and you turn. ?A tracked praetorian would have to be limited to flat ground regardless :) ?

I have an ok looking proxy, but it only has one turret...


back to the Hubries size again.... Slann are the oldest known race in the universe. They had a hand in clutivating the other races and techologies.
Why would they build big bulky vehicles? The Necron vehicles are entities, not crewed vehicles. ?APCs need to be larger to transport units but not so for tanks.
Yes, everyone likes to see big tanks but there is no necessity for it.
Tank = big gun, heavy armour, big power supply = big. ?Eh, the Hubries really dont do it for me at all. ?If you're wedded, just take the photo of the hubries on an artificially small base without any outside size reference.


Lots of ideas for Slann Mechs(some are way out of my budget). Still trying to come up with some skethces for the Titans.

Still trying to use WK stuff 'cos its' cheap. ?How about this for one of the Slann titans. ?Stands about the same height as a Warlord but bulkier. ?Lots of mega-Slann-like weaponry :). ?Matches the template sort of ok-ish.


I think some of the DRM figs will work good as some of the Dracons. Need three basic types. Big (Kroxigor), not so big (Suarus) and smaller (Skinks.) I am not sure if DRM has all three.


I think they really only have the not so big ones....again, unless you start doing tricky base size things :)

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I like the Titan.

What is WK stuff? (or was that a typo?)
Cheap is good (on my budget) ?:p

I understand about big tanks. It is most everyones view.
Still, with technology, it doesn't have to be. Until I find something that I like better I will use my pipsqueeks. ?:laugh:

If nothing comes up before publication time I will use your idea of a photo with nothing to compare it to. (I wonder if I put them in water they would swell up? ?:p ?Probabaly not!)

Three sets of tracks or even two do not have the same dynamics of one set. ?Tracked vehicles use different speed and/or direction of the opposed tracks to turn. Unless the tracks swivel or the hull is jointed multiple track sets effectively could not turn. Then again, this is sci-fi.
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WK = WizKids.

Game is called Mechwarrior, and it's a CMG.  Common mechs like the one above go for maybe $1 on fleabay.  Significantly cheaper than most alternatives :)

The game figures are nominally 1/160th scale, and there are probably 300-400 different sculpts counting inf/vehicles/mechs so there are some decent proxy candidates.  





These are both about the length of an Ordinatus, though lower.  The second one would be a possibility for the Necron Annihilator.

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I like the first on and it is a candidate for the Annhilator. Just need to do some turret changing.

Going to try to find the WK site. Looks interesting.

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