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Post subject: Marines with few infantry - need advice  Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2003 4:44 pm |
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Well that makes sense, based on the production schedule, but like I said before, sometimes it appears they throw some things out to see if it will "fly". ?And I have no problem with anyone coming up with their own army list(s). ?We are still using modified SM1 TO&Es, so as I have said previously, do what works for you !  ?And then let Jervis know. ?As far as Kitty, I don't think we should mention her, I feel it offends some of the other guys on the forum, so I plan to try to stay on topic ... 'nuff said. ?
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Post subject: Marines with few infantry - need advice Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 4:40 pm |
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Hey guys I collect Chaos too, so do your best ! I have all 4 Powers + Undivided Forces. I look forward to all the new Chaos releases - or any releases for E-A, for that matter ! 
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Post subject: Marines with few infantry - need advice Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 4:46 pm |
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dafrca: What do you want to see changed? If we can hash it out, we can start out with a somewhat united front when it comes back around.
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Post subject: Marines with few infantry - need advice Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:34 pm |
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| Quote (nealhunt @ 11 2003 July,08:46) | | dafrca: ?What do you want to see changed? ?If we can hash it out, we can start out with a somewhat united front when it comes back around. |
Neal,
I am at work and thus do not have my notes with me. The things that I recall off the top of my head:
CSM formations seemed to be slightly too large.
I was unhappy when Jervis removed the Lord of Battles from the list.
I think the Cultist made nice ablative armour and need to return *in the list* not just as a seperate army.
These are the things I can pull off the top of my mind.
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Post subject: Marines with few infantry - need advice Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 1:15 pm |
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Well, Jervis has mentioned that there will be a big update to the Epic site after the weekend, including the return of the Lost and Damned list!
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Post subject: Marines with few infantry - need advice Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 3:15 pm |
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I look forward to any Epic update !!! Yahoo !!! 
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Post subject: Marines with few infantry - need advice Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2003 5:22 pm |
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| Quote (CyberShadow @ 18 2003 July,05:15) | | Well, Jervis has mentioned that there will be a big update to the Epic site after the weekend, including the return of the Lost and Damned list! |
Well the new stuff is up. Includes a new Chaos list.
http://www.specialist-games.com/epic40k/Vault.htm
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Post subject: Marines with few infantry - need advice Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2003 7:35 pm |
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And remarkably, I still have no desire to play a chaos force, despite the fact that in SM and in Epic they were constantly one of my top two favorites.
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Post subject: Marines with few infantry - need advice Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2003 9:54 pm |
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| Quote (nealhunt @ 21 2003 July,11:35) | | And remarkably, I still have no desire to play a chaos force, despite the fact that in SM and in Epic they were constantly one of my top two favorites. |
Is it because Jervis split the Chaos list into two armies or is your dislike deeper then that?
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Post subject: Marines with few infantry - need advice Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 3:18 pm |
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It's still overwhelmingly generic.
I really liked Black Legion back before the Abaddon story line was added to the background. I even had a company painted up. Now I find them insanely annoying, much like Space Wolves.
I think you could do a Khorne or Nurgle army just fine, but I despise Khorne, and Nurgle is only marginally appealing.
My preferred forces are, in order:
Tzeentch
Slaanesh
Word Bearers
Alpha Legion
Tzeentch is right out. There just aren't the pieces there to put together a Thousand Sons army.
Slaanesh might be possible, but it still looks a bit bland.
Word Bearers would probably work just fine, but you would have to get your opponent to agree to let you summon non-faction demons.
Alpha Legion would also be okay if an opponent agreed to allow cultists.
So... out of the list, one is possible without house ruling stuff, and my favorite is just not workable. For now, I'm keeping Orks and SMs on the top of my "to build/paint" list, followed by Nids and IG.
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Post subject: Marines with few infantry - need advice Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 4:32 pm |
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Post subject: Marines with few infantry - need advice Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 6:03 pm |
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Legion, the problem with that is that not everyone on this list has a dedicated gaming group who can hash out all the details for doing their own thing. If I tried to do that, I could never play a game.
Sticking with the GW setup makes everything very "portable" for lack of a better term. It's a very convenient short hand for being able to play a fairly fun and balanced game. In that aspect, their standardized rules add a tremendous level of value, even if they are not perfectly satisfactory.
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Post subject: Marines with few infantry - need advice Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 7:17 pm |
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| Quote (nealhunt @ 22 2003 July,07:18) | | It's still overwhelmingly generic. |
Neal,
Let's push the subject a little and see what happens. Go to the playtest and see what I posted:
http://uk.games-workshop.com/40kuniv....ID=1052
Maybe we can get some talk going...
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Post subject: Marines with few infantry - need advice Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 7:30 pm |
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Legion 4,
I will always agree with you on the "do what is best for you" way of thinking. However, I must say, it is not always the best answer.
As Neal has pointed out, the "Rules as Written" sure is nice when you go to find a pick-up game. No arguements about cheesy house rules.
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Post subject: Marines with few infantry - need advice Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 7:50 pm |
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Hi!
As Neal has pointed out, the "Rules as Written" sure is nice when you go to find a pick-up game. No arguements about cheesy house rules
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I have always wondered how common are "pickup" games with epic players. Most I have encountered play in well established groups and rarely play with people outside their group.
Do members of this forum play with a wide variety of epic players they have never met before? Or do they play with more or less regular opponents?
I think this point would be crucial in the choice between z'my own stuff" or "official" rules.
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