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Which IG units are you building for E-A?
MaksimSmelchak	Post subject: Which IG units are you building for E-A? Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 6:30 am
Brood Brother Joined: Sun Feb 16, 2003 4:43 pm Posts: 7258 Location: Sacramento, California, USA	Which figures do you gentlemen recommend using for the follwing IG Armageddon units? Here are some resources to view more information about them: CA ? Codex Armageddon 40k EAW ? GW Epic Armageddon web site http://www.armageddon3.com/ CIG ? Codex Imperial Guard 40k   Here are my ideas of figures to use: ------------------------------------ IG: - Arm. Ash Waste Militia - I really want to build Hive Gangers / Milita. FIGURES: To get the milita / ganger look, I'm thinking of using a combination of chaos cultists, Catachans and Codex Grey IG. We discussed painting Catachans with blue jeans and T-shirts before. - Arm. Command Guard - I guess like a few others, I'm planning to use this formation as an excuse to bring a Leviathan. FIGURES: I'm guessing that it would be best to use Valhallans since the Steel Legion usually gets these figures. - Arm. Hive Militia - I really want to build Hive Gangers / Milita. FIGURES: To get the milita / ganger look, I'm thinking of using a combination of chaos cultists, Catachans and Codex Grey IG. We discussed painting Catachans with blue jeans and T-shirts before. - Arm. Steel Legion - They're featured and mechanized infantry is cool. I'm probably going to group Superheavies here as well. FIGURES: I'd definitely use Valhallans witha  couple of WWII German officer proxies for special characters. - Arphista Penal Legion - I haven't figured out which figures to use for them, but I loved the old penal legions. FIGURES: I'm thinking of using medieval penitants, peasants, or rabble to get the right look. I have no idea how to get the look of chains. I can always use spare figures and some spare C&C Russians AA guns that i got from Legion-4 for armament. - Asgardian Rangers - I'm going to use some of the odder cavalry proxies for their mounts. FIGURES: I've got no idea other than they dress in furs and skins like Native Americans. - Cadian Shock Troops - They're one of the featured groups with fluff and might receive new models for their infantry. FIGURES: I have no idea, but new figures will probably come out for these guys. Maybe Codex Grey IG? GZG figures might look good as well? - Catachan Jungle Fighters - I have all those Epic40k Catachans - got to use them for something. FIGURES: Catachans, of course! LEgion-4 traded me some odd WWII artillary mounts that I can convert to be heavy bolters. Amyone know where to find a kneeling Catachan figure or appropriate looking proxy? - Death Korps of Krieg - Steel Legion and Krieg Korps. Cool combination! FIGURES: Valhallans look good as Death Korps of Krieg and I'd use the same WWII German officers for special characters. - Elysian Drop Troops - I'm thinking that GZG proxies would look good as Elysians. FIGURES: I really like the look of NAC figures. Thay have helmets like depicted in the Armageddon web site drawings. Maybe the old Codex Grey IG Assault troops with their back packs would look good in this role? - Jopall Indentured Sqdns - I like their paint job and Codex Grey would look good as Jopallis. FIGURES: I want to use Codex Grey IG or my Scotia proxies for these guys. - Krourk Ogryn Auxilia - I like their red and black camo and it gives me an excellent excuse to convert lots of Ogryns. FIGURES: Ogryns, but like Tas, I don't know ho0w to get a little variety for them. I will definitely do the weapon repositioning thing for them. They look wooden otherwise. Ideas? - Minervan Tank Legions - Amphibious tanks are cool. It would be fun to convert little wading tubes and other amphibious additions for Minervan armor. FIGURES: I'm thinking that valhallans or Codex Grey IG would be the way to go and modify the outsides of all the Minervan vehicles with wading/fording equipment made out of Plastruct tubes and sheeting. - Mordian Iron Guard - They're one of the featured groups with fluff and might receive new models for their infantry. FIGURES: I have no idea which troops to use. Any ideas? - Noctan Strike Force - Night fighters need black uniforms. This formation obviously needs a few Imperial assassins as well.   FIGURES: I'm thinking that my Scotia Sci-fis would look good as Noctans assuming I paint the appropriate black or dark grey for their uniforms. Ideas? - Ocanon Phalanx Troops - I'm thinking of using my Scotia proxies for Ocanons with their need for hostile environment suits and all. FIGURES: These guys need hostile environment suits so I'm thinking the the Scotia Sci-fi power armor guys would be appropriate. Maybe the UN Marines from GZG? - Semtexian Bombardiers - I love their WWI German look and it's convenient to group my artillary as Semtexians. FIGURES: WWI Germans are needed because of the spiked helmets. Valhallans would work as well. - Storm Troopers - I need an excuse to bring Valkyries and Vultures onto the field. I'm thinking that some of the GZG proxies look a lot like Storm Troopers. FIGURES: I really like the look of NAC figures. Thay have helmets like depicted in the Armageddon web site drawings. Maybe the old Codex Grey IG Assault troops with their back packs would look good in this role? - Zouvan Skirmishers - I like their black and red camo and they'd look good with the other black and red unit, the  Krourk Ogryn Auxilia. FIGURES: I'm thinking if using Codex Grey IG or my Soctia Sci-fi figures. The paint job is the important part here to get the right black look with red stripes. Ideas? -------------------------------------- Shalom, Maksim-Smelchak. _________________ 6mm Sci-fi: http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/6mm ... nWarGames/ My Personal Blog: http://6mm-minis.blogspot.com/
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Legion 4	Post subject: Which IG units are you building for E-A? Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 4:03 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 5:13 pm Posts: 36987 Location: Ohio - USA	Good ideas, Maksim. ? The GZG NAC or NSL troops would make good Stormtroopers or Elysians. ? The GZG New Israeli Troops with berets, might good "old school" Stormtroopers, too. ? And I agree, the Scotia troops would make good Noctans. ? Glad to see our trading has worked out well for both of us! ? If G/W releases some good new IG Infantry, I'll buy those and sell all my GZG. I have a set of each type, still in the bags. ? So we'll just have to wait (on G/W again) and see... _________________ Legion 4 "Cry Havoc, and let slip the Dogs of War !" ... "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
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MaksimSmelchak	Post subject: Which IG units are you building for E-A? Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2003 4:39 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Sun Feb 16, 2003 4:43 pm Posts: 7258 Location: Sacramento, California, USA	I've decided to start painting the 6mm Scotia sci-fi as some Jopalli companies. I've been trying out trial paint jobs and have found one that I'm happy with. As soon as I'm done with the Jopallis, I have plans to build some Krourk Ogryn detachments to aid the Jopallis. Shalom, Maksim-Smelchak.   ------------------------------------- Jopall Indentured Squadrons Stationed primarily in the upper reaches of Hive Tartarus, The Jopall Indentured Squadrons are an integral part of the thinly-spread Imperial defence lines holding back the steadily growing numbers of Orks teeming around the beleaguered Hive. However, sure of their abilities as marksmen and confident in their ability to mobilise a staggering amount of manpower should the Orks breach the hive walls, the toll the Jopall are taking on the beseiging Orks is considered exceptional. On their homeworld, the Jopall owe their government money as soon as they are born. Taking up valuable resources throughout their childhood, they incur a debt that they cannot repay until adolescence. Most citizens of Jopall spend the majority of their adult lives working off the debts they incur during the first part of their lives. There are ways around this punishing system, however; the citizen can either borrow money from the local Lord, or they can work off the debt to the government by joining the Jopall Indentured Squadrons. This system explains why the Jopall are never short of recruits. The Indentured Squadrons favour a defensive stance where resources are committed at the last moment. This makes them extremely unpopular with the fanatically committed Death Korps of Krieg stationed around the perimiters of Hive Tartarus. These two styles of warfare have complemented rather than detracted from each other, despite the resentment that is rapidly growing between the two factions. The Death Korps are disgusted by the very idea that a soldier should fight to work off debts rather than serving out of a sense of purest duty. They find the relaxed attitude to command structure in the Indentured Squadrons to be appalling and inefficient. However, it is just this fact that makes the Jopall so unique. Jopall Indentured Sqdns 17 Battalions Krourk Ogryn Auxilia 2 Regiments Individuality is a trait that is openly encouraged in the Indentured Squadrons, and the ingenuity and commitment of the soldiers is rewarded by a small financial recompense. Noted for their unscrupulous tactics, the Jopall have familiarised themselves with Tartarus to an exceptional degree, assimilating many of their soldiers into the Hive Militia and utilising the resources of the Hive against the Ork invaders. As a result of this, squads of Jopall soldiers have poisoned the Ork's water supplies with toxic waste, snipers have harried the Ork lines around the clock from the towers surrounding Tartarus, and the tunnels riddling the outskirts of Tartarus have been collapsed, instantly forming an intricate network of trenches from which the Death Korps have been operating. This spontaneous and uncoordinated activity is looked upon with contempt by many of the more traditional officers, but the results are undeniably valuable to the war effort. One instance in particular highlights both the potential the infamous Jopall guile can achieve and also the tremendous strain that it can put on the Imperial resources. A small squad of low-ranking Jopall officers managed to isolate a tribe of Orks who had somehow obtained several Imperial vehicles. These troop transports were painted with crossed axes and hung with skulls, but unlike the rusting, smoking heaps the Orks normally employ, these were well-maintained and comparatively clean. Masquerading as liaisons from Von Strab's Personal Guard, the Jopall officers negotiated the unauthorised transfer of three Imperial Basilisks and a substantial amount of artillery shells with a high-ranking Ork mechanic. The Mek, as it called itself, was allegedly frothing at the mouth with excitement, and after thoroughly checking the Basilisks it paid the Jopall cadre substantially for the artillery pieces. However, the Basilisk's undercarraiges were each strung with thin lines of plastic explosive covered in dust and grime. As soon as the cadre of officers were safely ensconced in the towers of Tartarus, observing the Mek proudly parading his newly bolstered artillery battalion to the Warlord Morbad himself via a satellite camera, the remote devices each officer carried detonated the plastic explosives. This triggered an explosion just destructive enough to detonate the Basilisk's ammunition, causing a chain reaction that consumed a full sixth of the Ork's artillery. The voluntary loss of three Imperial Basilisks was unforgivable, and the officers were stripped of rank. However, the soldiers in question now number among the most popular of the entire company. Jopall on Armageddon: The squadrons of the once-peaceful agriworld Jopall are equally well known for their marksmanship as they are for their greed. The question of recompense is often raised by the officers of the Indentured Squadrons, and every Ork life they take is tallied somewhere around the soldier's person, to be raised at a later date. Excellent snipers, they are stationed in the upper reaches of Hive Tartarus, and are currently thinning the numbers of the secondary Ork drops laying siege to the outer reaches of the hive. However, the Orks are creeping further into the Hive by the day, and soon the Indentured Squadrons may have to resort to close combat. _________________ 6mm Sci-fi: http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/6mm ... nWarGames/ My Personal Blog: http://6mm-minis.blogspot.com/
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Legion 4	Post subject: Which IG units are you building for E-A? Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2003 4:53 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 5:13 pm Posts: 36987 Location: Ohio - USA	The new W/D - issue 283, has some great pics and fluff about the IG & SMs during EoT!!! It's?Worth a look! Great pic of IG on pg. 62 - It looks like they have been watching the news from the fronts! Almost like something out of an Osprey book! _________________ Legion 4 "Cry Havoc, and let slip the Dogs of War !" ... "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
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primarch	Post subject: Which IG units are you building for E-A? Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 12:29 am
Brood Brother Joined: Fri Feb 14, 2003 12:46 am Posts: 27069 Location: Edmond, Oklahoma USA	Hi! Something useful in WD?! When did this happen?! Why wasn't I informed?! Next thing you'll tell me is that they'll be bringing back SM second edition... On a serious note, Maksim, you ever think of making some short stories based on your creations? Primarch _________________ Primarch The Primarchload Magnetized Titans Tutorial Net Epic Gold Heresy Rules
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MaksimSmelchak

Post subject: Which IG units are you building for E-A? Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 2:22 pm

Brood Brother Joined: Sun Feb 16, 2003 4:43 pm Posts: 7258 Location: Sacramento, California, USA

Primarch, On a serious note, Maksim, you ever think of making some short stories based on your creations? Primarch Yes. I usually make a whole pile of fluff for the big units I paint. It gets me in the mood. I even name the command stands and characters like SeekerMeng does. Shalom, Maksim-Smelchak. P.S. I didn't write the Jopalli stuff. That's from GW. _________________ 6mm Sci-fi: http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/6mm ... nWarGames/ My Personal Blog: http://6mm-minis.blogspot.com/

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primarch	Post subject: Which IG units are you building for E-A? Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 10:38 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Fri Feb 14, 2003 12:46 am Posts: 27069 Location: Edmond, Oklahoma USA	Hi! That's pretty cool. As an offshoot to this topic, I wonder how many people like (or would like) to have a sort of campaign system for epic where troops gain experience and such. It makes naming units and giving them a history have a game impact. Just some thoughts... Primarch _________________ Primarch The Primarchload Magnetized Titans Tutorial Net Epic Gold Heresy Rules
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Tas	Post subject: Which IG units are you building for E-A? Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 11:05 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Thu Mar 06, 2003 10:01 am Posts: 7823 Location: Sydney, NSW	Quote (primarch @ 15 2003 July,07:38) Hi! That's pretty cool. As an offshoot to this topic, I wonder how many people like (or would like) to have a sort of campaign system for epic where troops gain experience and such. It makes naming units and giving them a history have a game impact. Just some thoughts... Primarch Me! Me! Me! Actually I am in the midst of compiling some stuff with L4 but it is FAR from ready for anybody to look at.  We came to the conclusion that for what we wanted it became a little abstract so some of this type of superdetailing you mention had to be lost.   But that was just what we were looking at - I love this kind of thing.  It really turns your lead/plastic into characters! _________________ Tas My General blog: http://tasmancave.blogspot.com/ My VSF Blog: http://pauljamesog.blogspot.com/ My ECW Blog: http://declaresir.blogspot.com/
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MaksimSmelchak	Post subject: Which IG units are you building for E-A? Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 11:18 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Sun Feb 16, 2003 4:43 pm Posts: 7258 Location: Sacramento, California, USA	I'd really like to get a campaign set of scenarios going for the Armageddon setting. With the amount of information available, that should be very possible. If I can, I'll run an E-A camapign locally. Shalom, Maksim-Smelchak. _________________ 6mm Sci-fi: http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/6mm ... nWarGames/ My Personal Blog: http://6mm-minis.blogspot.com/
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Tas	Post subject: Which IG units are you building for E-A? Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 11:32 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Thu Mar 06, 2003 10:01 am Posts: 7823 Location: Sydney, NSW	Quote (MaksimSmelchak @ 15 2003 July,08:18) I'd really like to get a campaign set of scenarios going for the Armageddon setting. With the amount of information available, that should be very possible. If I can, I'll run an E-A camapign locally. Shalom, Maksim-Smelchak. That sounds cool Max...but wouldn't a web-based campaign we can all participate in be better? ? Our system is more free-flow than scenario based, which makes scenario game balance difficult. There are a raft of great scenario opportunities in any of the Armageddon wars! Good luck with it! _________________ Tas My General blog: http://tasmancave.blogspot.com/ My VSF Blog: http://pauljamesog.blogspot.com/ My ECW Blog: http://declaresir.blogspot.com/
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MaksimSmelchak

Post subject: Which IG units are you building for E-A? Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 11:46 pm

Brood Brother Joined: Sun Feb 16, 2003 4:43 pm Posts: 7258 Location: Sacramento, California, USA

Tas, That sounds cool Max... but wouldn't a web-based campaign we can all participate in be better? I'd love to run a campaign as a web-based sytem that all of you could participate in. Infact, I'd really love to get my own site going. I've long wanted to get my own 6mm Consumer Report going with photos of all the miniatures that I have to save others the trouble. The main short coming is that I lack the web skills to do it. I've been slowly learning so that I'll be able to be my own webmaster in the near future. I've found hosts that charge around $20.00 USD a month for one's own domain and a very appreciable amount (Several Gb) of hosting room, which should be plenty since my photos generally are around 20-60 Kb in size. Shalom, Maksim-Smelchak. P.S. Of course, if I ever get a web campaign or site, I'll invite all of you to join me. _________________ 6mm Sci-fi: http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/6mm ... nWarGames/ My Personal Blog: http://6mm-minis.blogspot.com/

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Tas

Post subject: Which IG units are you building for E-A? Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2003 12:08 am

Brood Brother Joined: Thu Mar 06, 2003 10:01 am Posts: 7823 Location: Sydney, NSW

Quote (MaksimSmelchak @ 15 2003 July,08:46) Tas, That sounds cool Max... but wouldn't a web-based campaign we can all participate in be better? I'd love to run a campaign as a web-based sytem that all of you could participate in. Infact, I'd really love to get my own site going. I've long wanted to get my own 6mm Consumer Report going with photos of all the miniatures that I have to save others the trouble. The main short coming is that I lack the web skills to do it. I've been slowly learning so that I'll be able to be my own webmaster in the near future. I've found hosts that charge around $20.00 USD a month for one's own domain and a very appreciable amount (Several Gb) of hosting room, which should be plenty since my photos generally are around 20-60 Kb in size. Shalom, Maksim-Smelchak. P.S. Of course, if I ever get a web campaign or site, I'll invite all of you to join me. It can be a real bug bear- it took me literally years to build my OGRE website, then when all my software died/expired and I had to rebuild it...I just couldnt face it.  Thus it is sadly languishing... Of course if you had your own site, that would save you some hassle emailing all those pics around!  Great idea to stick it all up though.  What a great info source for proxies- especially when half those companies dont have pics of their own stuff on their websites! Re PS -I'm there! _________________ Tas My General blog: http://tasmancave.blogspot.com/ My VSF Blog: http://pauljamesog.blogspot.com/ My ECW Blog: http://declaresir.blogspot.com/

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MaksimSmelchak

Post subject: Which IG units are you building for E-A? Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2003 12:47 am

Brood Brother Joined: Sun Feb 16, 2003 4:43 pm Posts: 7258 Location: Sacramento, California, USA

Tas, It can be a real bug bear - it took me literally years to build my OGRE website, then when all my software died/expired and I had to rebuild it... I just couldnt face it. Thus it is sadly languishing... Your OGRE site is outstanding though! I do have some experience as I followed my siter's learning curve when she started learning the art ob web site design. Of course, I'll have Tuffskull and Cyber-Shadow to ask questions of when the time comes as well as my sister. The biggest impediment right now is the financial security problem. I'm hesitant to commit to a monthly web payment when I'm not sure if I'm going to have a job tomorrow. I can't wait until the teaching market stabilizes again (got to get rid of the current governnor!). Of course if you had your own site, that would save you some hassle E-mailing all those pics around!

It is a bit of a hassle, but if someone else benefits from it then I'm happy. The feedback (lousy photo, too dark, etc.) helps me to learn how to make and take better photos. I think the biggest factor in taking good photos is lighting and good camera quality.

Great idea to stick it all up though. What a great info source for proxies- especially when half those companies dont have pics of their own stuff on their websites!

I've badly wished for photos of many things for years! I have a good feeling to that if someone like me put together a web resource like that that others would start contributing photos to it beyond my own collection. Look at Stuff of Legends.

Re P.S. -I'm there!

I'll make sure to invite you. I've been slowly writing two OGRE campaigns as well.

- One of them is set in the Middle East with the PanEuros and Combine constantly interfering with local politics (no different than today).

- The other is set in a future USA (Combine) with a heavy duty invasion by several forces and the separation of the USA into smaller feudal states. I've mostly writtena bout the American West Coast and South West at the time being.

Shalom,
Maksim-Smelchak.