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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2003 4:55 pm 
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Woohoo! An extra 2 stands, groovy :), I will let you know how it goes.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2003 8:06 pm 
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I have pictures of a Patriarch that I have.


Cool, isn't that one of the old 40k Familiar models that came with the Magus figures?....
Looks perfect to use in Epic- Great idea CyberShadow... :D

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2003 10:56 pm 
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Ive got one of those, that puts my army at one (1) unit...

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2003 5:54 am 
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Cybershadow, those are the same "old School" familiars that I use for my Patriarchs and I use 2 other types of those "old" models for my Chaos Spawn, too, as well as my Greater Deamons (you can see them on the Epicollector site). ?Here's my version, based on SM1 Cultist. These are in number of dets. by type. ?Genestealers 1+, Patriarch 0-1, Hybrids 0-2 (I used some old Scotia models), Spawn 0-3, Coven/Chaos Magi/Magus 1. Each Cult consists of any combination of 6 (total) of the following dets. - Cultist Inf. 2-5 (includes Tac. & Assault dets.), Mtd. Cultists 0-4 (R/Rides & Bikes), Beastmen 0-4, Spt Wpns 0-1 ?(incls. Rapiers, T/guns, Mortars, Tarantulas), Vehicles 0-2 ( L/Russ, Rhinos, any IG AFV), ?Sentinals or robots 0-1, Artillery 0-1, (any IG type), Chaos Artifact Weapon 0-1 (based on Patron Power, Daemon Engines, Knights, Plague Tower, Lord of Battles, etc.). ?If I find an acceptable model(s) for a Limo, I'll add it. ?I also have an option to use other Tyranid, models for an expanded G/S Cult, too, including Tyranids, Lictors and any other 'Nid inf. types (0-1 mostly) available on the sprue (I have 10 sprues worth). ?This could be a very powerful force and give anybody a tough time, but as I said, I've never used it in a game :{ , ?yet ...   I use the IG vehicles and troops  from my Guard Regts., so I didn't have to make Cultist only models. However the Magnus is a combination of SM1/2 "Old Guard" troops & E40K Cultists Leader, and the Cultist Assault Troops are 4 "Old Guard" gunners & 1 E40K Cultist.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2003 6:46 pm 
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Cool. Thanks for that L4. It looks like an interesting force. I think that the main thing that you have allowed that I have not are the Chaos battle gifts. I did think about them, but in the end I decided on simply adding a Chaos Cultist detachment. (One of the first two GW things that I bought was a GS/Khorne Cult - which is where I got the Imperial Guard models, Tuff!)

As for mutants, I am sure that they will be very interesting. Personally, I plan to take my time with these guys and have some fun. But, remember that mutations can include a third eye, spitting acid, webbed fingers, brightly coloured skin, and an ability to strangely pick the fastest queue in the supermarket!  :D  I guess that what I am saying is that mutants dont HAVE to be heavily converted.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2003 4:24 am 
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I'm glad you showed some interest, it's a flexible system and should be fun to play on the table. I saw in the E-A Chaos lists, they show Limos and some type of Transport for Cultists, so hopefully they will make some "neat" models. ?I look forward to it. ?Mutations on 6mm scale might just be easily reflected in the rules, but if you have the urge, go for it. ? ? Thanks again ... :D

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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2003 8:44 am 
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Shadow, I've just posted some replys for you on the Playtester's forum.

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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2003 10:35 am 
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Great, thanks. I will check them out.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2003 11:09 am 
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It finally happened! It has taken a while due to a severe shortage of time, but the next version of the Genestealer Cult Force has arrived, and been updated in the Additional Rules section of www.epic40k.co.uk.

Check it out and let me know what you think. Seriously, any type of feedback is welcomed - first impressions, actual playtesting, thoughts on the background, new units, units which dont fit, stats and points... anything.

Basic changes involve a lot of the feedback that I have received both here and via the EpicA Vault. Primarily, I have changed the stats and points values of Purestrains to match the ones in the Tyranid list (I had overcharged quite considerably). I have not made all of the changes that were suggested, as I have left things as they are where I have had further thoughts, or simply not decided what is best.

Thanks guys, and I look forward to hearing from you.





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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 3:12 pm 
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Per Shadow Hunter's request...

Tsons infantry currently have no distance weapons (small arms oonly), and are Immune to Panic with a Reinforced Armor save.

Personally, I think the 1 psyker/9 Tsons should yield a heavy weapon for every other stand. ?Doombolt and Bolt of Change are nasty. ?Leaders (Warlords, etc.) should get the Smite ability.

I think Raptors should be replaced with chosen disc riders and/or possessed with wings (daemonic flight in 40K). ?They should have the stats of Raptors, with either an extra attack or a MW attack to reflect mounts and psyker abilities (all possessed and chosen are psykers). ?Obviously, they should have a higher point cost.

No bikes, since bikers can't have the Mark of Tzeentch. ?Possibly, possessed and disc riders could have slightly different stats to make up for this.

No havocs, since they can't have the Mark.

Tsons Terminators could arguable be reduced in power (since you can take regular TSons upgraded to termies w/o heavy weapons), but I think since they would still get psykers, and chosen would get psykers and heavy weapons both, we should split the difference and leave them.

I would add a Silver Tower weapons platform in place of the Defiler options.

I also think Tsons dreads would carry two weapons. ?in 40K they get their flame-defense against HTH, so I would field them exclusively as 2-weapon configurations. ?I'm very open on this, though.

For this same reason, I might bump the CC of their preds/LRs.

Obviously, aircraft would be the Tzeentch version, rather than the new modified Imperials.

I like Traitor legion titans, so I would put them in the list. ?IIRC, the fluff has at least one Tzeentch-dedicated legion, though I can't remember specifics, and might be wrong.

I'll try to cobble together some points/detachments later today.

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I looked up the titan legions. ?Apparently there are the Suns of Damnation (Citadel Journal - formerly Burning Stars) and the Stormlords (Inquisitor magazine - blue and purple colors).

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 4:32 pm 
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Thanks for making a start.


What I need to do is have a good look at the current chaos list. ?I only have the previous ?version, not the black legion one, and haven't really looked at that.  So as yet, I have nothing to work on/with.

I would give the stands a doombolt shot to represent the sorcerer too. ?Something similar to the stats for a heavy bolter.

You've put in some good ideas.

1K sons have two types of termies. ?Rubric ones and the chosen. ?In 40K they are very different, I'm not sure if that could be taken into consideration for EpicA.

The Chosen termies are all sorcerers, so would be powerful in shooting and HTH. ?The rubric are okay in both, but more resiliant.  I would like different stats, but realise its probably not practical.  The models would look too similar, and it'd get confusing.  So maybe you're right with taking an average, and using standard termies.

There's no restriction for 1Ksons taking a defiler.  Did you mean to not let them have it?

My Dread is an important part of my 40K list.  And I know many players prefer the double weapon platform.  The only reason I haven't yet is lack of money. (I want the forgeworld version eventually. Until then, I have to use my converted marine dread).

Do you think there would be enough variety with an epic 1Ksons list?  It is sounding pretty limited. (just like the 40K list  :laugh:   )

I'll have a look at the chaos list tonight, so I can try and add real input, instead of the drivvle that just came out. :l


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 5:37 pm 
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>> I only have the previous ?version, not the black legion one, and haven't really looked at that.

Personally, I don't like the list. ?FYI, all the lists have been intended to be Black Legion lists.

>> I would give the stands a doombolt shot to represent the sorcerer too. ?Something similar to the stats for a heavy bolter.

Doombolts are 15cm, AP4+. ?Bolt of Change are 30CM MW5+, per the current stat lines for daemons. ?I think BoC is more approriate. ?It makes shooting a good propsect without being ridiculous.

>> There's no restriction for 1Ksons taking a defiler. ?Did you mean to not let them have it?

Actually, I was thinking of Obliterators when I typed "Defiler." ?Obliterators can't have a Mark of Tzeentch, so they are out. ?Defilers are fine. ?Silver Towers should be an excellent candidate for AA abilities, which matches up nicely with removing the Obliterator AA capability.

>> Do you think there would be enough variety... sounding pretty limited. (just like 40K)

I think it should be fairly limited in order to match the character of the Tsons.

I think a boost to their strategy rating is in order for their seer abilities. ?I am considering d6+1 (for a 2d6+1 roll - average 8) and d3+2 (d6+d3+2 - average 7.5).

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I knocked out a draft, but I don't have the old stats for the Doomwing and Firelord.  If someone could post them, that would be great.

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Wow! You guys have done an excellent job so far with this list. I don't like chaos, but with a list like this I would be tempted to play them.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 8:34 pm 
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Okay, how does one go about posting a file to this board where people can read it? ?I have a TSons list worked up in MS Word format exactly as the official playtest lists.

I suppose if all else fails I could put it on the EpicA website with all the other fan lists, but I don't know if those who are interested are members already.

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I also came up ideas for with Rubric Termies versus Chosen Termies. ?Basically, the Rubric would turn in the autocannons for Immune to Panic and Invulnerability Save. ?I'm not sure if it would warrant a points reduction. ?Buy them in blocks of 4 just like regular termies. ?SM termies could be used for models because the Rubrics aren't mutated.

Chosen would keep everything, but add 1 BoC per stand (a lot of firepower). ?Obviously, they would be more expensive. ?I was thinking buy them in blocks of 2. ?Use normal CSM termie minis.

As of right now, though, I didn't put them in.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 10:34 pm 
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Quote (nealhunt @ 09 2003 July,20:34)
Okay, how does one go about posting a file to this board where people can read it? ?I have a TSons list worked up in MS Word format exactly as the official playtest lists.

Hi, great work with the list. Once this is done, you really should send it to Jervis and put it on the EpicA board. I am afraid that I have not allowed attachments to the board.

However, if you have web space, you can simply add a link to a post. If you have problems doing this, let me know and I can find some space. Also, I can convert to PDF if you would like.

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