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Here come the Dark Eldar!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:23 pm 
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I started working on converting standard Eldar Guardians to Dark Eldar Warriors and have a few prototypes. Here is the first.

I started by shaving his back ( :D sorry, I couldn't help it), getting rid of the powerpack and leaving just enough of a little hump for the shoulder guards. That was the easy part.

The problem lies in the remaining two customizations: modifying the helmet and modifying the gun.

This first example has two small styrene rods glued to the side of the helmet. I still need to trim the bottom of the left rod to taper it in, but this is the easier method to break up the lines of the old helmet.

The gun conversion was done by chopping off the old shuriken catapult and gluing a styrene rod across the chest, then gluing a second smaller one underneath to act as a supporting hand.

The problem with this method is that shaving the rods to smaller, non-circular shapes is hard to do reliably and the results look chunky.









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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:29 pm 
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The second example looks a little better, in my opinion. The helmet has two small styrene rods angled out of it. In order to get them secure, it required that I drill two holes, one on each side, for the styrene to get a purchase to rest upon. That is a bit more work than I think I want to endure, but I like the looks better. Maybe just one per stand?

This rifle conversion was basically chopping the catapult down, cutting a slot in the gun, then gluing a sliver of sheet styrene into the slot. Once it was solid, I carved the styrene with a knife to get a basic gun shape. All in all, the gun was pretty easy, but the pose is awkward at best. (Of course, so is the pose of the basic model I am working off of.)








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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:37 pm 
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The last example also has the "horns" for a helmet, which required drilling the holes. Also, I glued sheet styrene across the chest and shaped it with a knife, then glued a second piece of styrene for the left hand gripping the stock.

Overall, I like the look of this figure better, but it took the most work.








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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:48 pm 
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I think I will probably go with the helmet using example 1. Drilling two holes with 0.5mm bits is a bit much to do for something you are going to have to do with 60+ models.

I am not sure about the guns yet. I think I will try one more experiment similar to example 2 using styrene rod (which requires a hole in the torso) for the splinter rifle, then try attaching a smaller styrene rod below to simulate the bayonet. That would require the least amount of mucking with fiddly bits.

Whatever I do, I need to be able to reproduce it in quantity, as I don't want to just use generic Guardians painted as DE.

Any ideas on mass-production would be greatly welcome.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:12 pm 
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I would suggest using the older, lasgun carrying guardians as a basis for the conversion. Doing that would allow you to skip the gun-barrel replacement step. You might still want to add something to the lasguns to make them look right, like a bayonet blade or a strip along the top of the barrel. Anyway, I'm pretty sure ebay is swimming in those old guardian models, but I could be wrong.

Also, if you can get some of the old lascannon-carrying guardians, they'd make a good starting point for the heavy-weapons dark eldar.

Other than that, use harliquins as wychs (maybe shave their heads), swooping hawks as scourges (swap wings for more bat-like ones, and add side blades to the helmets)

Ultimately, I think adding side blades to the helmets will make the models different enough to not be confused with guardians. The simple, no-drill method looks fine. The only other suggestion I have is that instead of styrene rod, you might try styrene strips that have a rectangular or square x-section. I've seen 0.030"x0.015" and 0.020"x0.010" in RR modeling stores. Use something like that, and cut the strips at an angle (instead of perpendicular to the long axis of the styrene) and that will give you an quick way of getting close to the look you want.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:33 pm 
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Quote (semajnollissor @ 23 Jan. 2006 (17:12))
I would suggest using the older, lasgun carrying guardians as a basis for the conversion.

Unfortunately, eBay is not swimming with the little buggers, as I think they only included five on the older Aspect Warriors sprue.

Ultimately, I think adding side blades to the helmets will make the models different enough to not be confused with guardians. The simple, no-drill method looks fine. The only other suggestion I have is that instead of styrene rod, you might try styrene strips that have a rectangular or square x-section. I've seen 0.030"x0.015" and 0.020"x0.010" in RR modeling stores. Use something like that, and cut the strips at an angle (instead of perpendicular to the long axis of the styrene) and that will give you an quick way of getting close to the look you want.


They do have "L" shaped pieces in the Platstruct line. I never really looked at the "H" and "I" shapes, but now that you mention it, cutting an "L" shape would give me the simple "horns" that I am looking for.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:28 pm 
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Hope the new pictures are better. I could not see where to remove the old pictures.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:59 pm 
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Looks good. As for the drilling bit: Is it really necessary to drill holes? I'd think that you could get away with gluing the bits straight onto the head.

I also agree that a small triangle of plasticard to simulate the Bayonet thingy would be nice. ...and if done right I even think that you could skip all the rest of the remodelling of the gun as it would remove focus from the rest of the gun.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 1:00 am 
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Quote (Warmaster Nice @ 23 Jan. 2006 (22:59))
I also agree that a small triangle of plasticard to simulate the Bayonet thingy would be nice. ...and if done right I even think that you could skip all the rest of the remodelling of the gun as it would remove focus from the rest of the gun.

That's a real good suggestion. I will try adding a bayonet to the end of the shuriken catapult. I think the width of the gun's base needs to be thinned, but at least not adding barrels lowers the amount of work tremendously.

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