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Post subject: Should Crisis suits be Infantry?  Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:39 am |
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| Quote (RedDevil @ 28 Nov. 2005 (22:56)) | | However, just out of curiosity, if you don't play 40K at all and in no way care how things work in 40k, then what do you use to make decisions in Epic? ?It seams you would have no choice, but to make decisions out of a vacuum, as 40K is the soul source for mechnics and fluff. |
The fluff is fine as a reference. I have 15 years of Epic experience, which gives a pretty good ear for how things should work on the tabletop. Throw in other wargames and some military experience and you're all set without ever looking at 40K. The Lascannon vs Broadside is a great example of how it goes.
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Post subject: Should Crisis suits be Infantry? Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:54 am |
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There is only 40K and BFG fluff for the Tau at the moment though. How would you know how a lascannon works on a broadside unit without referencing to 40K?
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Post subject: Should Crisis suits be Infantry? Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:10 am |
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| Quote (Dobbsy @ 27 Nov. 2005 (23:06)) | | Sorry CS but in my mind, defining what people who "don't play Tau consider a popular choice", can easily equate to "I wanna be able to shoot at it with everything because it gives me an advantage". |
On the other hand yes, I play tau could just as easily equate to "I wanna be able to avoid as much fire and get every single advantage I can..."
That's circulate logic and won't get you particulary far 
However decision has been made, so be it. Myself I would have gone over to crisis as LV/walker, broadsides as AV(yes AV)/walker._________________ www.tneva.net
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Post subject: Should Crisis suits be Infantry? Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:42 am |
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| Quote (tneva82 @ 29 Nov. 2005 (10:10)) | | On the other hand yes, I play tau could just as easily equate to "I wanna be able to avoid as much fire and get every single advantage I can..." |
Ohhh, you mean like every other player out there with heavy infantry units? Yes good point Tneva.
Oops! there I go with circular logic again....
Bah! That's my last post on this I think.
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Post subject: Should Crisis suits be Infantry? Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 1:04 pm |
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| Quote (Dobbsy @ 29 Nov. 2005 (10:42)) | | Quote (tneva82 @ 29 Nov. 2005 (10:10)) | | On the other hand yes, I play tau could just as easily equate to "I wanna be able to avoid as much fire and get every single advantage I can..." |
Ohhh, you mean like every other player out there with heavy infantry units? Yes good point Tneva.
Oops! there I go with circular logic again....
Bah! That's my last post on this I think. |
OK, I think that it is time that we moved on from this subject.
A decision has been reached, which seems to be not far enough for some and too far for others... an indication that it seems a pretty balanced starting point! 
My reasoning for this as a the point to get feedback is because it keeps the Broadside as LV (something that I am keen on) and should let the Crisis perform as expected without the need for any additional rules.
The debate about Tau players wanting one thing and non-players wanting another can be read either way, and my job is to listen to both sides and make sure that I am aware of the considerations and implications, and pick a point based on this.
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Post subject: Should Crisis suits be Infantry? Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 2:18 pm |
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| Quote (CyberShadow @ 29 Nov. 2005 (12:04)) | | OK, I think that it is time that we moved on from this subject. |
CS, is it then possible to lock this topic? PLEASE?
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Post subject: Should Crisis suits be Infantry? Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 2:21 pm |
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Thank you very much for making "the" decision and letting this move on.
Let the gaming begin...
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Post subject: Should Crisis suits be Infantry? Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:31 pm |
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All,
The subject is getting heated, and its the reason I backed off some time ago.
CS has made a call on this. This leadership and stake in the stand is a good thing.
For the Greater good, I ask you all - let us try and let cooler heads prevail here. Let's give it some playtest and proper feedback from that playtest.
Just because we've all made up our own minds on this topic, doesn't mean its not worth still playtesting as CS has outlined. There's been plenty of other changes since v4.1 days - and a revisit of playtesting - just as CS has outlined - is definitely justifyable.
I'll be changing Tau WIP V4.2.8 to reflect CS' decision.
CS, Honda, and Chroma,
AMEN - [lock] and load, let the gaming begin."
...and remember Tau, we're the good guys!
 
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Post subject: Should Crisis suits be Infantry? Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:56 pm |
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Thread locked for the Greater Good.
I will always be looking for feedback on this decision guys... so get playing. Thanks.
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