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wraeththu
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Post subject: L&D v3.2 army list Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 8:58 pm |
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Below is the link to the L&D v3.2 list. ?This is basically the final list (rules, structure and points costs). ?Please take a look and let me know if there are any errors that I overlooked or if you have comments in general about the list.
L&D v3.2 http://oubliette.tranquility-base.us/DL ... edv3.2.pdf
v3.2 Reference sheet http://oubliette.tranquility-base.us/DL....3.2.pdf
Most of the major changes:
1. Switched Arch Heretic and Demagogue names so they now match their definitions.
Demagogue-leaders who obtains power by means of impassioned appeals to the emotions and prejudices of the populace.
Arch Heretic-The chief : principal person who holds controversial opinions, especially one who publicly dissents from the officially accepted dogma of the Emperor.
2. Split Demagogue (formerly Arch Heretic) and Aspiring Champion into two separate stats
3. Changed Questor cost to 275pts and Subjugator CC3+
4. Questor and Subjugator can now form mixed formations
5. Subjugator Hellblades are changed to Extra Attacks(+2) TK(D3)
6. Critical Effects on Greater Daemons and Chaos Altar are clarified.
7. Changed what can be transported by Chimera and Land Transport. ?Explanation of what must be transported. is changed to infantry units that move 15cm or less.
8. Big Mutant - Changed Heavy Stubber AP5+ to 2x Hvy Stubber AP6+ to keep consistent with Heavy Stubber stats.
9. Change break down of traitor units in the coven as follows. up to 3 Leman Russ 70pts each up to 4 Traitor Support 25pts each up to 2 Hydras 50pts each up to 3 Griffons 35pts each up to 3 Hellhounds 50pts each
Thanks -Audrey
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Chroma
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Post subject: L&D v3.2 army list Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:21 pm |
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Looks good! I'll have to go over it with a fine-tooth mutated comb later.
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Chroma
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Post subject: L&D v3.2 army list Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 12:38 am |
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Markconz
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Post subject: L&D v3.2 army list Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:01 am |
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Wow great work - thanks Chroma! I have 8 of the Epic40k Chaos sprues still untouched, plus 2 of each Greater Daemon painted up, so I'm pretty lucky in that respect. Haven't got the vehicles though. I will have to use traitor guard support for a while I think.
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Chroma
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Post subject: L&D v3.2 army list Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:05 am |
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Quote (Markconz @ 23 Nov. 2005 (00:01)) | Wow great work - thanks Chroma! I have 8 of the Epic40k Chaos sprues still untouched, plus 2 of each Greater Daemon painted up, so I'm pretty lucky in that respect. Haven't got the vehicles though. I will have to use traitor guard support for a while I think. | Thanks!
*Eight* Chaos sprues?! Man, you are *set*! *laugh*
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Legion 4
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Post subject: L&D v3.2 army list Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 7:13 am |
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Nice ! 
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Post subject: L&D v3.2 army list Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 7:28 am |
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wraeththu
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Post subject: L&D v3.2 army list Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:13 pm |
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Quote (Chroma @ 22 Nov. 2005 (18:38)) | | Nice stuff Chroma. I have a huge army, but nothing painted like what you have. I only have shots of a few painted infantry types.
-Audrey
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Post subject: L&D v3.2 army list Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:19 pm |
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Nice looking army, Chroma. 
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wraeththu
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Post subject: L&D v3.2 army list Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:21 pm |
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Quote (Chroma @ 22 Nov. 2005 (19:05)) | *Eight* Chaos sprues?! ?Man, you are *set*! ?*laugh* |
The secret to stretching cutlists stands is to add in regular guard figures (traitors) as well.
http://oubliette.tranquility-base.us/images....D43.jpg
http://oubliette.tranquility-base.us/images....D48.jpg
Originall the far left stand was the cultist stand and the far right stand is the traitor PDF stand. ?But that was before the two were merged into one stat line in the list. ?So now technically both are just cultists. ?The other stands are mutants and plague zombies.
-Audrey
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Chroma
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Post subject: L&D v3.2 army list Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:35 pm |
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Quote (wraeththu @ 23 Nov. 2005 (16:21)) | Originall the far left stand was the cultist stand and the far right stand is the traitor PDF stand. ?But that was before the two were merged into one stat line in the list. ?So now technically both are just cultists. ?The other stands are mutants and plague zombies. | Hey [b]Audrey[/u]!
Nice models. Would it be possible to get a close-up of the plague zombies? I'm still at a loss as to what to do for them and would like to see yours up close. Thanks!
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wraeththu
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Post subject: L&D v3.2 army list Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 7:59 pm |
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This is not the best of photos. ?But it is better. ?They are made out of guard and cultist parts. Not exactly an easy conversion when you need something like 18-30 stands . ?But I am insane enough to try 
The key thing is the blood. You could paint up some regular stands and just add some blood. I think they would work fine. I also used clear gloss on the blood to give it that fresh look.
http://oubliette.tranquility-base.us/images....ies.jpg
-Audrey
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Markconz
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Post subject: L&D v3.2 army list Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:21 pm |
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Thanks for the pics and info on those Audrey.
I think with 8 sprues I have 16 stands of cultists, 16 of beastmen (mutants), plus I can stick in guardsmen including catachans, ratlings etc to make the cultists go further as you suggest.
I don't have any minotaurs or trolls but maybe I can use spare Ogryns as the big mutants?? I have plenty of them.
Then I have 8 stands of each lesser daemon, plus 2 of each greater daemon.
Flesh Hounds I guess I should use as the Chaos Hounds? Is there ever going to be an entry for Flesh Hounds in any of the lists do you think?
So with this force I need to add a bit to get to 10K (all my armies are at least this number). Each 5K part will be a seperate selection from the force list.
A question about the land transporters - I just wonder if these be more workable if they were transport 1 like the ork trucks in the speed freak lists? They look like pure deathtraps at the moment (though I haven't played with them yet of course!). Or maybe it would help if there was another LV available (such as a pickup or jeep with TOW or MG on the back as is used by many insurgents, militias around the world today (ie like the ork buggies)). Just so every hit doesn't decimate the infantry so much?
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Tas
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Post subject: L&D v3.2 army list Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 2:25 am |
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Nice stuff Chroma - you are promoted to Arch-Heretic! 
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