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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:39 am 
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Whoa - I don't agree that the loss of any valued member is a solution, guys. I won't comment any further, as I have no issue with anyone (well, I hope so anyway!), but I really would not like to see friends and Epicommers walk away. :( :( :(

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Me neither. But as I don't have a clue about what has happened I obviously can't comment either.  :(

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A sad turn of events indeed :(

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Sigh. I had hoped that this sorry situation had resolved itself and sorted itself out. To be honest, my patience with the situation is running dry.

Maksim: I dont necessarily think that bringing this all up again and naming names has been a positive thing, but I will not be altering or censoring your post. You and a number of other members here may have issues with other members, that is your right and I am not going to comment on this or any justification for it. All that I will say is that it is not my job or right to get involved.

I do feel that a lot of this has occurred because you are not happy with the way that I dealt with the situation, and likewise I feel that Dafrca is also not entirely satisified with the solution. Well, that is perhaps that best indication that the resolution was fair - since if I cant please everyone equally then upsetting everyone equally seems pretty close!  :D

Maksim, you feel like you have been painted as the bad guy, PG feels victimised, I feel that I am caught in a war and Dafrca feels that things have been unfairly concluded.

Personally, I have no real problems with anyone here, including PG, but this subject is just never-ending.

If people are ignoring your messages, then there is little that you can do about it. We should all be adult here, and we should all be able to discuss issues without getting overly offended. People disagree with others. It happens. For example, and I am not saying that this ever actually happened, but if people dont like a decision that I have made about these boards at any time, then they should let me know. I will review it, but if I still come to the same conclusion then I wont change that decision. Will everyone like it? Certainly not, but it happens.

This event has hung aroudn for way too long, particularly for something which boils down tro a clash of personalities between people and for something that is actually not related to Epic or Gothic at all.

Everyone here has a right to voice an opinion, as long as it is not designed to offend, upset or incite. In any flare up of this type, there is never solely one person to blame for it all. If, at any time, either side had simply walked away and not let it bother them, then we would not still be discussing it. All that I am saying, Maksim, is that I do not see you as the cause or only problem, and also that I dont necessarily see PG as the sole root of it all either.

Tas: I am in two minds as to whether this is 'opening the window' or whether this actually counts as 'fresh air'. I agree that we should get back to the important things in life... Epic and Gothic.

And, I tend to reply that 'you would make anything look great', which is also not a lie and usually receives a smile in response.  :cool:

Dafrca: Firstly, I am sorry that I have not been replying to your messages, I have been away. I cannot force, bribe or persuade anyone to remain here, but I do hope that you will reconsider your position on this. It is true that Maksims post does present his side of the situation, but then I could not expect him to do otherwise.

I will close for an appeal for calm. If anyone has any issues about anything, then please contact me via PM and I will do what I can. Dafrca, I believe that there are degrees between good online friends and leaving the boards, I hope that you can find them and work things out. Maksim, if he cant, then you have to move on. People disagree, there are a lot more important and terrible things going on in the world out there.

Sheesh! If this goes on much more, I will have to start charging therapy fees!  :p

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 2:32 pm 
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Hi Dafrca,

Quote (Dafrca @ 15 2005 Aug.,09:57)
I wrote five different responses to this post and deleted them all. In the end they just were not going to fix anything nor were they going to help in any way.
So I am going to limit myself to a few comments.


Thanks for putting some thought into your response.

I think you would be better off just saying what you have to say. Don't worry about what you think will solve problems for me. Do what is right for you and we'll find somewhere to meet in the middle.

Quote (Dafrca @ 15 2005 Aug.,09:57)
Maksim, your post was well written and, despite failing to include all of the pertinent facts, does present your point of view and your version of the events.


I think you should include the pertinent facts. I don't have license on the whole story and want to hear your point of view, especially if I haven't been hearing it before.

Quote (Dafrca @ 15 2005 Aug.,09:57)
You asked me to accept that you disagree with my point of view, then I asked you to do the same. You seem unable to do so.


*** What do I need to do to accept your point of view? ***

If I am not accepting your point of view properly then I am willing to do what you think is necessary to accept that point of view.

Quote (Dafrca @ 15 2005 Aug.,09:57)
In my opinion your post only presented one side and then tried to make it seem as if you are somehow a victim.


I didn't even want to deal with the PG issue. I wish that I never had done so either. I would much rather have our firendship back than having done my job as uber-mod here at the boards.

The only victim of the exchange is out friendship, not anything else.

Iain AKA Cybershadow did not ban PG from the boards. Neither did I. CyberShadow told him, to my knowledge (What went on between them happened between them... I only know as much as they told me), that he would be welcome to stay as long as he followed CyberShadow's rules. PG chose to leave.

Quote (Dafrca @ 15 2005 Aug.,09:57)
As I can not accept that you are somehow the injured party and can not make you feel comfortable by changing my beliefs or point of view, I will remove myself from these boards so you can be happy again.


I don't want to be comfortable along those lines.

I want our friendship back where it was and am willing to work to see that happen again.

I am also not asking you to change your beleifs, beleive me to be an injured party or for you to make me happy.

And I am certainly not asking you to leave this boards. In fact, I don't want you to leave these boards. Additionally, I don't think anyone else wants you to leave these boards.

I would be unhappy to see you go. Very much so.

Quote (Dafrca @ 15 2005 Aug.,09:57)
Enjoy your life.
dafrca


Thank you.

I wish the same for you sincerely.

However Dafrca, we'll all feel your loss if you decide to go.

I don't like to speak for the others here, but I feel justified in saying that we would all miss you if you did decide to go for your own reasons.

If you would like to talk this problem out and find someplace to reconcile, I'm very willing to do so and will correspond with you here at Epicomms, by PMs, by E-mails, be telephone or any other venue of communication you prefer.

I think well of you and want to see this rift bridged. I'll do what you require of me to see that happen.

To be honest, I still don't understand what happened. I would like to understand.

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Hi Iain,

Sigh. I had hoped that this sorry situation had resolved itself and sorted itself out. To be honest, my patience with the situation is running dry.


I'm also tired with the situation. I want it to be over and to reconcile and to return to what we had before.

Maksim: I dont necessarily think that bringing this all up again and naming names has been a positive thing, but I will not be altering or censoring your post.


I asked how to deal with this. Noone answered so I dealt with it in my way. I put it out in the open to talk it out. Letting it sit didn't work for three weeks and it was festering. I put my cards out on the table. I didn't know what else to do.

You and a number of other members here may have issues with other members, that is your right and I am not going to comment on this or any justification for it. All that I will say is that it is not my job or right to get involved.

I respect you, Iain, but the "hands-off" approach wasn't working for me.

I do feel that a lot of this has occurred because you are not happy with the way that I dealt with the situation, and likewise I feel that Dafrca is also not entirely satisified with the solution. Well, that is perhaps that best indication that the resolution was fair - since if I cant please everyone equally then upsetting everyone equally seems pretty close!

I accept the way you dealt with the situation, Iain. It's over. No complaints here. ?

Maksim, you feel like you have been painted as the bad guy, PG feels victimised, I feel that I am caught in a war and Dafrca feels that things have been unfairly concluded.

I would rather see things go Dafrca's way than see him leave. If Solomon would have the baby cut in half, I'll give up my half to the other parent.

Personally, I have no real problems with anyone here, including PG, but this subject is just never-ending.

I'm OK now. I simply want to find a way to reconcile with Dafrca.

If people are ignoring your messages, then there is little that you can do about it. We should all be adult here, and we should all be able to discuss issues without getting overly offended. People disagree with others. It happens.

You're right. There is nothing I can do about it.

However, that didn't stop me from trying. If I did nothing, I would have felt helpless.

For example, and I am not saying that this ever actually happened, but if people dont like a decision that I have made about these boards at any time, then they should let me know. I will review it, but if I still come to the same conclusion then I won't change that decision. Will everyone like it? Certainly not, but it happens.

I accept what happened. The decision worked fine by me.

Everyone here has a right to voice an opinion, as long as it is not designed to offend, upset or incite. In any flare up of this type, there is never solely one person to blame for it all. If, at any time, either side had simply walked away and not let it bother them, then we would not still be discussing it. All that I am saying, Maksim, is that I do not see you as the cause or only problem, and also that I don't necessarily see PG as the sole root of it all either.

I agree.

I will close for an appeal for calm. If anyone has any issues about anything, then please contact me via PM and I will do what I can. Dafrca, I believe that there are degrees between good online friends and leaving the boards, I hope that you can find them and work things out.

I'll try, Iain. I've said my peace. I didn't leave it bottled up and I left the venues of communication open. I don't know what else I can do.

Maksim, if he can't, then you have to move on. People disagree, there are a lot more important and terrible things going on in the world out there.

I guess the point of contention for me is that I really don't want to move on. I think the world of Dafrca and want to heal what is between us as friends.

And you are right about there being much more important and terrible things going on in the world out there.

Sheesh! If this goes on much more, I will have to start charging therapy fees! ?

So, Iain, how do you charge? :D

Infantry stands, Warlord Titans or vehicles? :)

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Boy, I thought we were one big, happy (relatively speaking) family. ?:{ ?

I was afraid something like this would happen with the influx of refugees from the SG forum. Little did I suspect that it would happen between two pillars of the EpiComm community. ?:{ ?

Dafrca, I hope you change your mind. This place won't be the same without you.

You too, Maksim. Your departure would be a sore loss as well.

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Gee... I'm so self involved in my own "morass," that I missed this whole "incident"!? :o ?

Glad to see you all are working it out... ?

Epicomms is one of the few Oases in the desert of my life... :)

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Hi!

This does prove one thing beyond a doubt...

..I cant take any more vacations....

..you all need to be monitored constantly.... :;): :D :p

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Boy, I thought we were one big, happy (relatively speaking) family. ?:{ ?

I was afraid something like this would happen with the influx of refugees from the SG forum. Little did I suspect that it would happen between two pillars of the EpiComm community. ?:{ ?

Dafrca, I hope you change your mind. This place won't be the same without you.

You too, Maksim. Your departure would be a sore loss as well.

Hi DS

You summed up my thoughts entirely. Been too tied up at work to keep up with all of the recent threads- with the new influx of posters we can sometimes get 3-4 pages of new posts each day. I remember days where there was so little activity in Epicomms that you could practically hear the tumbleweed.....

So I missed almost all of the recent flare-ups. Hopefully you'll both be able to sort stuff out between you so that you each remain a member- I know I have always enjoyed reading your respective posts.

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Quote (Dwarf Supreme @ 15 2005 Aug.,15:53)
Boy, I thought we were one big, happy (relatively speaking) family. ?:{ ?

That's the problem with happy families though! Things like this do tend to happen from time to time... hopefully things can be resolved.

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Hope Daf comes back ... Didn't know things came to this point ...

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Me too, it would be a crying shame to see 2 pillars lost. :( :( :( :(

I'm also one that missed the incident and am only piecing bits together from these posts.

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Huh?  What the @#$@#$@ happened?

Sheesh...don't turn the computer on for a week.....

Sigh.... I won't pretend to know the issue here, but I hope that neither of you leave Epicomms.  I for one would miss you both terribly.  

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Well I just went thru "a thing," where a friend, some one who I care about, and I stopped speaking. It was hard on both of us and we started to be "friends" again, by me simply saying "hello" a little over a week ago. Things are almost back to "normal"... and we promised not to let this happen again.

It was easier to friends then waste time and effort otherwise... ?Now nothing is perfect, but it's much better this way.

Now I'm still estranged with another buddy over this incident and others but I have to decide whether we go back to "normal" or if we both just moved on and we out grew our association... ?

Life ain't easy, but sometimes we make it harder then it has to be... We all could use a little more magic and miracles in our daily existance... I know I could! :;): ?

Here's to hoping we find easy paths and calm waters along our journey... :)

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