Army List Review - Chaos 2700 pts |
|
the_fifth_horseman
|
Post subject: Army List Review - Chaos 2700 pts  Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 9:45 am |
|
| Brood Brother |
 |
Joined: Wed Apr 30, 2003 12:35 pm
Posts: 1259
|
|
I'm working on the Space Wolf lists and most of the ideas are already laid down (for example warbands instead of detachments, basically Infantry warband, armor warband and some specialist groups), I have problem with how to represent Stormcaller psychic power on Epic scale. Any ideas?
_________________ The Fifth Horseman. Quality over quantity.  Realm of the Horseman ? ? The mirror site.
|
|
| Top |
|
 |
|
wargame_insomniac
|
Post subject: Army List Review - Chaos 2700 pts Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 1:11 pm |
|
| Purestrain |
 |
Joined: Sat Jan 31, 2004 6:42 pm
Posts: 3305
Location: West Yorkshire, UK
|
|
Cool!! Is this fan list or first draft for SG list?
Have you posted anywhere on line yet?
Would love to see how you have incorporated character of SW without too many special new rules.
Cheers
James
|
|
| Top |
|
|
|
Justiniel
|
Post subject: Army List Review - Chaos 2700 pts Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 2:06 pm |
|
| Brood Brother |
|
Joined: Mon Apr 26, 2004 8:59 am
Posts: 3280
Location: Holywood, Northern Ireland
|
|
| Top |
|
|
|
Legion 4
|
Post subject: Army List Review - Chaos 2700 pts Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 3:07 pm |
|
| Brood Brother |
|
 |
Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 5:13 pm
Posts: 36989
Location: Ohio - USA
|
Yep ! ?"J" is right, it is in the SM2 fluff in a W/D issue ... somewhere ... IIRC ? ?Just checked W/D Index site ... all the Epic data on SW Characters (Njal, Ragnar, etc.) is in W/D issue 158. ?Hope that helps. ? 
_________________
Legion 4 "Cry Havoc, and let slip the Dogs of War !" ... "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
|
|
| Top |
|
|
|
primarch
|
Post subject: Army List Review - Chaos 2700 pts Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 9:18 pm |
|
| Brood Brother |
|
 |
Joined: Fri Feb 14, 2003 12:46 am
Posts: 27069
Location: Edmond, Oklahoma USA
|
|
Hi!
Yup, got those articles.
If anyone needs them, just drop me a line.
Primarch
|
|
| Top |
|
|
|
the_fifth_horseman
|
Post subject: Army List Review - Chaos 2700 pts Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 10:25 am |
|
| Brood Brother |
|
Joined: Wed Apr 30, 2003 12:35 pm
Posts: 1259
|
It'd help a lot, thanks.
But what are your ideas for it in EA?
Insomniac, this is my fan list, but as Epic Index Astartes will go first to the Incoming! and then through Doug to JJ, it has a great deal of chance to influence the official one.
SW are the last list I need to do in order to complete the work - all other Loyalist and Traitor Chapters from the First Founding are in already on over 50 pages . 
_________________ The Fifth Horseman. Quality over quantity. Realm of the Horseman ? ? The mirror site.
|
|
| Top |
|
|
|
wargame_insomniac
|
Post subject: Army List Review - Chaos 2700 pts Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 2:04 pm |
|
| Purestrain |
|
Joined: Sat Jan 31, 2004 6:42 pm
Posts: 3305
Location: West Yorkshire, UK
|
|
Cool
Does this mean that you have done one for the Iron Warriors??
Cheers
James
|
|
| Top |
|
|
|
the_fifth_horseman
|
Post subject: Army List Review - Chaos 2700 pts Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 1:20 pm |
|
| Brood Brother |
|
Joined: Wed Apr 30, 2003 12:35 pm
Posts: 1259
|
|
Yep, IW too. Just go to my site and enter EA section then downloads, and download Epic Index Astartes.
_________________ The Fifth Horseman. Quality over quantity. Realm of the Horseman ? ? The mirror site.
|
|
| Top |
|
|
|
wargame_insomniac
|
Post subject: Army List Review - Chaos 2700 pts Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 8:11 pm |
|
| Purestrain |
|
Joined: Sat Jan 31, 2004 6:42 pm
Posts: 3305
Location: West Yorkshire, UK
|
|
Thanks for link- I followed it through and downloaded the file. When I tried to open the saved file though, Winzip would n't work.
I then tried opening the file directly rather than saving it + extracting it via Winzip. Did n't work then either.
Is there any chance you could e-mail me the Iron Warriors section? Either as text in e-mail or as Word attachment, whichever is easier.
I am dying to see what you have come up with for the sons of Perturabo!!
Cheers
James
|
|
| Top |
|
|
|
Mojarn Piett
|
Post subject: Army List Review - Chaos 2700 pts Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 7:40 am |
|
| Brood Brother |
|
 |
Joined: Fri Feb 14, 2003 7:35 am
Posts: 5455
Location: Finland
|
| Quote (the_fifth_horseman @ 15 2004 May,10:25) | It'd help a lot, thanks.
But what are your ideas for it in EA? |
Njal was a librarian who had a psyber raven and a psychic power that was basically the same as the Eldritch Storm of the Eldar.
Simple suggestions would be:
1) Psyber raven: gives +1 to action test for the formation he is with.
2) Wind blast: adds one blast marker to the target formation. Range 15cm just like the Smite.
To balance out Mr. Njal shouldn't have the "Smite" ability.
_________________
I don't know and I let who care. -J.S.
|
|
| Top |
|
|
|
vanvlak
|
Post subject: Army List Review - Chaos 2700 pts Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 7:52 am |
|
| Brood Brother |
|
 |
Joined: Fri Oct 31, 2003 7:52 am
Posts: 10348
Location: Malta
|
| Quote (Mojarn Piett @ 18 2004 May,08:40) | Njal was a librarian who had a psyber raven and a psychic power that was basically the same as the Eldritch Storm of the Eldar.
Simple suggestions would be:
1) Psyber raven: gives +1 to action test for the formation he is with.
2) Wind blast: adds one blast marker to the target formation. Range 15cm just like the Smite.
To balance out Mr. Njal shouldn't have the "Smite" ability. |
'E's good, 'e is! Very simple rules, but effective, and true to background. Great stuff, Mojarn.
I suppose that some day Tuffskull will be explaining which colours and inks he used to paint the psyber-raven's cyber-eye...seriously, any Epic-scale raven ideas? Anyone wanting vultures big enough to ride on can opt for Warmaster Carrion, but these can't perch on a 6mm scale shoulder. So, is it green stuff or equivalent?
_________________
Back from oblivion (again)?
|
|
| Top |
|
|
|
the_fifth_horseman
|
Post subject: Army List Review - Chaos 2700 pts Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 8:22 am |
|
| Brood Brother |
|
Joined: Wed Apr 30, 2003 12:35 pm
Posts: 1259
|
|
Insomniac: I have some problems with my e-mail acc, and I cannot get your e-mail from the board. But try to get Total Commander/Windows Commander (any version) and use its internal ZIP interface. Should work.
Mojarn: Good idea. Anything for the actual Stormcaller psychic power, though?
_________________ The Fifth Horseman. Quality over quantity. Realm of the Horseman ? ? The mirror site.
|
|
| Top |
|
|
|
Mojarn Piett
|
Post subject: Army List Review - Chaos 2700 pts Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 7:03 am |
|
| Brood Brother |
|
|
Joined: Fri Feb 14, 2003 7:35 am
Posts: 5455
Location: Finland
|
| Quote (the_fifth_horseman @ 18 2004 May,08:22) | | Mojarn: Good idea. Anything for the actual Stormcaller psychic power, though? |
Njal's psychic power was called the wind blast, his nickname was Stormcaller.
The original wording for the psychic power:
Wind Blast.Njal can project a whirlwind of psychic energy that can pin enemy units to the ground and make it impossible for them to move and shoot. The area affected by the wind blast is represented by the special wind blast template printed below. The template can be placed anywhere within 25cm of Njal instead of making one of the other psychic attacks listed in Armies of the Imperium. Any stand or vehicle under the template that does not have a saving throw is pinned by the wind blast and is not allowed to move or shoot. It also has its close assault factor reduced by -2. Units that do have a saving throw are too powerful to be effected by the wind blast, and so may move and attack normally. The wind blast template remains in place until the start of the combat phase of the following turn and is then removed. Any stand or vehicle that would be affected by the wind blast may not move into or through the template while it is in play. Stands or vehicles trapped by the wind blast are given orders normally and are allowed to fire in the combat phase when the template is removed. |
So basically, as it causes confusion in enemy ranks a blast marker is the way to go in E:A.
In original SM2 rules the psyber raven gave him the ability to cast his psychic powers without LOS, but IMO the action test bonus is more in line of him being "well aware of everything that is happening around him".
_________________
I don't know and I let who care. -J.S.
|
| Top |
|
|
|
QuintAan
|
Post subject: Army List Review - Chaos 2700 pts Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:57 pm |
|
| Brood Brother |
|
 |
Joined: Mon Jul 04, 2005 6:44 pm
Posts: 173
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
|
|
We're having a mini-tournament in Ottawa in a couple weeks and I thought I'd solicit advice on my list.
Platoon #1 - 8 marines with Chaos Lord and Icon, 3 Defilers
555 pts
Platoon #2 - 8 marines with Chaos lord and Icon, 2 obliterators
480 pts
4 Scout Marines with Rhinos
= 170 pts
4 Predators and Land Raider
= 275 pts
5 Terminators with Chaos Lord
= 325 pts
4 Raptors with Chaos Warlord
= 140 pts
8 Bikes with Chaos Lord
= 300 pts
2 Decimators
= 450 pts
== 2695 pts
I know the Raptors should be bigger, but I'm limited for model selection at the moment. Other than that... fire away!
_________________
"I think I just had an evilgasm."
|
|
| Top |
|
|
|
pixelgeek
|
Post subject: Army List Review - Chaos 2700 pts Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:57 pm |
|
| Brood Brother |
|
 |
Joined: Sun Feb 16, 2003 8:10 pm
Posts: 2642
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
|
| Quote (QuintAan @ 14 2005 July,08:57) | | I know the Raptors should be bigger, but I'm limited for model selection at the moment. Other than that... fire away! |
I'd dropthem from the list if you only haave the four figs. They'll die pretty quickly and not really give you much back in terms of points.
Do you not have any Rhinos?
_________________
Guns don't break formations. Blast Markers break formations.
|
|
| Top |
|
|
