Ulrik wrote:
My point is that if you're trialing the unit you've already decided that it's ok to include it, if you can balance it. As far as I have understood the question this is not about balance, but about theme and abstraction level. I don't think that's something you can easily test, so I think that Dobbsy should make the call to either add it or not.
+1
You can balance pretty much any unit rules-wise, this issue for me is about adding the cool toys from 40k whether they're needed or not and how granular we're willing to go with the game, looking at the votes it's clear this is a divisive issue and really speaks about how different people view the game, for me, balance and gameplay trumps all, if it means I can't use the latest 'hyper muscled necrobutcher' in my army, I'm fine with that, I can either convert my own and count them as something else, or keep my hand in with the odd game of 40k
not including units for the sake of including them does not equal stagnation.... there has been a trend on these forums lately about pushing forwards and I agree with it, but blindly forging ahead without considering
why we're making the changes is just as counter productive in my opinion, the discussion is the important thing to have, and we are doing that right now