kyussinchains wrote:
Kyrt wrote:
I know it's only a fan list but urgh please no non-standard character shenanigans, you know how these things can end up setting a precedent. Adding a character should not change the armour of an entire unit, thats too much for epic even it works that way in 40K. Same with other stats, not everything has to be perfectly represented. If it really must be a completely transformed unit, can it not be a different unit?
Please can you explain what you mean? Are you referring to the void dreamer having a separate profile to the unit they are added to? In which case please see the daemon prince entry in *every* chaos list for an existing example of why this is no big deal
If it's about a character adding an ability to a unit, I refer you to the Tau ethereal character making a unit fearless while he is alive
Unless it's something else I've misunderstood?
Yes I mean characters cannot have basic stats. I'm saying if you want to give him his own stats then he can be a unit in his own right, which you replace another unit with. I don't play any chaos lists but checked a couple of CSM lists in the TP and both say the Daemon prince is type INF. The upgrade is to
replace a unit with a Daemon prince unit - albeit you then also add a lord character (which doesn't have basic stats). So that looks normal to me. Does another chaos list do it differently? Either way I don't think it is a good precedent to have characters with stats as it is very confusing - characters add things, never replace. Otherwise those commissar shadowswords would be running round with zero armour.
(By the way adding abilities to units is absolutely fine, but not sure what you mean about the ethereal he is the one character that does not actually add fearless to his
unit he adds it to the whole formation, similar to spirit stones i.e. a special rule.)
Edit: ah I see why you mention the ethereal, because of the farsight-a-like rule, you just meant formation not unit is all. Yep that works equally for units and characters alike (the farseer is an infantry unit not a character).