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Q - counter-charging, barging and base contact

 Post subject: Re: Q - counter-charging, barging and base contact
PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:30 pm 
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They've switched to now discussing Charging, not Counter-Charging.

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 Post subject: Re: Q - counter-charging, barging and base contact
PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:40 pm 
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Yeah, that's a separate question for WE performing an Engage action.

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 Post subject: Re: Q - counter-charging, barging and base contact
PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:49 pm 
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Yes in a charge you can move wherever you like as long as you don't enter ZoC, once you enter ZoC you must try to get into base contact. Once you reach base contact, a WE can choose to continue to move, barging units as it goes, but it must still follow the charging rules - i.e. if it enters a unit's ZoC it must move towards it. However IMO there is nothing to force the WE to barge (or continue barging), it can stop barging (and thus moving) when it likes.

Likewise for counter-charges, the only difference is that you cannot choose the direction to move in. It still doesn't mean you are forced to counter-charge, or forced to barge if you do counter-charge.

However, this isn't the thrust of the OP - it is about whether you can counter-charge if you are already in BtB. Normal units are not allowed to, and it's not because they are fully engaged (2x units or the equivalent 2x DC), it's because they are in base contact. Dave I'm not sure what you are agreeing to - the need for an FAQ? Would someone please explain the logic of allowing WEs to ignore the first sentence of the counter charge rule :) :
"Defending units that are not already in base contact with an enemy unit are allowed to counter charge."

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:50 pm 
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I have to admit that I've always played it as Kyrt is describing.
If a WE has been in base contact with any number of attackers, it didn't/couldn't counter charge.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 7:37 am 
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I'm with Onyx and kyrt, RAW the first condition permitting a countercharge is not met (unit not in BTB) therefore the war engine cannot counter charge

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