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[OLD] AMTL 3.23 (Approved)
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 5:36 pm 
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Yeah, come on, list! Get approved!
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 Post subject: Re: AMTL 3.23
PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 5:53 pm 
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Yes, it's about friggin time considering all the work some of us have put into it.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 6:27 pm 
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How is it going to be announced if the list would get aproved?

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Truthfully I don't know and I haven't had a response since sending in PFE100's reports. I expect someone on the ERC will pop in and say something or send me a PM and I'll update things. You guys will know as soon as I know something.

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It's being looked at now :)

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Moin,

Thank you.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 2:11 pm 
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PFE100 wrote:
Onyx wrote:
It's being looked at now :)


The last time I felt like this was, when the wife was due to give birth to boy number 4...


There are easier ways to get an E:A tournament together, but I'm sure that approach has numerous benefits :P

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:16 pm 
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The training sessions alone make the time spent worthwhile ;)

really looking forward to seeing this approved

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 Post subject: Re: AMTL 3.23
PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 7:17 pm 
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Good news folks!

I've heard back and the submission for Approved stats for AMTL 3.23 has passed the ERC. Thanks for all the hard work testing the list!

However, ERC had a couple of areas of concern to watch as the list is used:

Different weapons stats from standard lists:
1. Gatling Blaster: I think they would like to see this return to 4 shot and have a different price tag so the weapon is the same across the board. I'd prefer to see the 6 shot version be used instead across the board.

2. Apocalypse Rocket Launcher: I believe we've reconciled this as the AMTL version is named the Apocalypse Rocket Launcher while the standard load out has a plain rocket launcher. I'm treating the addition of Disrupt to the Apoc Launcher as different warheads being used with the AMTL list.

Cheap activations:
Specifically the Recon Cohort and single Warhound.


Regardless, the list is approved and development focus will fall back to skitarii.

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 Post subject: Re: AMTL 3.23 Approved
PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 7:34 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: AMTL 3.23
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Vaaish wrote:
I've heard back and the submission for Approved stats for AMTL 3.23 has passed the ERC. Thanks for all the hard work testing the list!

Great work everyone!

Vaaish wrote:
Different weapons stats from standard lists:
1. Gatling Blaster: I think they would like to see this return to 4 shot and have a different price tag so the weapon is the same across the board. I'd prefer to see the 6 shot version be used instead across the board.

2. Apocalypse Rocket Launcher: I believe we've reconciled this as the AMTL version is named the Apocalypse Rocket Launcher while the standard load out has a plain rocket launcher. I'm treating the addition of Disrupt to the Apoc Launcher as different warheads being used with the AMTL list.


I'd personally like to see other lists coming into alignment with AMTL, not the other way. For instance, both Iron Hands and Imperial Fists use your latest tested load-outs for AML (and other thematic weapons). Worst case, you've elegantly dealt with #2 already via the name change.

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Cheap activations:
Specifically the Recon Cohort and single Warhound.

More info?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:56 pm 
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jimmyzimms wrote:

Vaaish wrote:
Different weapons stats from standard lists:
1. Gatling Blaster: I think they would like to see this return to 4 shot and have a different price tag so the weapon is the same across the board. I'd prefer to see the 6 shot version be used instead across the board.

2. Apocalypse Rocket Launcher: I believe we've reconciled this as the AMTL version is named the Apocalypse Rocket Launcher while the standard load out has a plain rocket launcher. I'm treating the addition of Disrupt to the Apoc Launcher as different warheads being used with the AMTL list.


I'd personally like to see other lists coming into alignment with AMTL, not the other way. For instance, both Iron Hands and Imperial Fists use your latest tested load-outs for AML (and other thematic weapons). Worst case, you've elegantly dealt with #2 already via the name change.

I concur, however I'm easy if the other lists match to the AMTL or AMTL matches to them. All i care about is continuity across lists for weapons, units etc. I would the AMTL AC would have control over Titan weapons and other lists should match to them, but ERC is a bit "different" nowadays. I mean I remember when this list was already Approved, lol

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 Post subject: Re: AMTL 3.23 Approved
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I'd personally like to see other lists coming into alignment with AMTL, not the other way...


Well, the increase would only affect the warlord, and amounts to 2, 4+ ap/at shots per turn. The net effect of the change is 6 extra shots per game under ideal circumstances. Hardly game changing compared to the cost of fielding the warlord in the first place.


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That's all I've got. Perhaps Dave or others could chime in here?

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