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Blast Marker for coming under assault?

 Post subject: Blast Marker for coming under assault?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:01 am 
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Hi All

There was a dissagreement last night. One of our gaming group maintains you get a blast marker for coming under assault in the same way you get a blast marker for being shot at.

Further, this blast marker for coming under assault would be applied to both sides... with the end result in the winner gets the number of blast markers for units killed + 1 for being in an assault. (This could go further and state that the looser breaks, and then takes a hit (no save) for their 'assault BM'.

I strongly disagree but could not argue my side stronly enough ( mule-headdedness :p ) lol.

So we agreed that we would put it to the forum. Could we please get some input from those in the know?

Cheers


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 Post subject: Re: Blast Marker for coming under assault?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:05 am 
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No blast markers are placed for coming under assault.

Blast markers are only placed on the winning formation for losses they suffered, and any formations that were in a position to support the assault from the losing side.

Neither of the above are placed until the assault is fully resolved.


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 Post subject: Re: Blast Marker for coming under assault?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:07 am 
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Cheers Mephiston. That was pretty much my understanding.


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 Post subject: Re: Blast Marker for coming under assault?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:08 am 
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You don't get a blast marker for either assaulting or being assaulted; you only receive blast markers for units killed in the assault, and only after the assault is resolved. Obviously, the losing formation, being broken, doesn't receive blast markers for killed units.

If your group is so insistent about this, ask them to point you to where it says so in the rulebook.


Edit: if you want a bit more proof, then one of the assault modifiers (that's applied at the end of an assault) is for having no blast markers. I don't see how that would ever come up if all formations automatically got a blast marker at the start of each assault.


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 Post subject: Re: Blast Marker for coming under assault?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:15 am 
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This is the section they were arguing...

Quote:
1.3 BLAST MARKERS
During a game of Epic the formations under your command
will receive Blast markers when they come under fire, take
casualties, fight in assaults, or fail initiative tests. Blast markers
can be removed when a formation rallies or regroups (see 1.13
and 1.14.1). The effects of blast markers will make more sense
when you have read the rest of the rules, but in summary


I argued that yes - when they fight in assaults but the BMs are placed as described in assault resolution.

I do think opinion on this is conclusive. We did agree to have the forum resolve the disagreement.


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