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So they've had three rulebooks with faster rhinos, and the latest rulebook extends that to all rhino-hulled vehicles.
Forget the "Overcharged Engines" / "Lucifer Engines" background, the actual rules are a well-established theme that's not going to go away.
True. The
theme will not. This particular iteration might.
The well-established theme is that BA transports are fast, but not in a stable fashion. This whole 'fast Rhino chassis' thing is quite new.
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Yes that's why Land Speeders have the Skimmer Special Ability as well as a speed of 35cm...
Yes, they do. But being able to fly over small obstacles which wouldn't be represented as terrain would still increase your speed overall.
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No they don't. That's the point of Gargants. They're hillariously impossible yet somehow are horrifically scary war engines of doom.
Do you read what I type?
"If you have war-obsessed creatures who can make war engines work by believing hard enough and who think bigger is better, Gargants make sense."
You had to
read that to get to the bit you quoted.
They are internally consistent with the universe. They fall apart when you apply real-world logic to them, yes, but that's not what's in play.
Just because things are silly/don't make sense IRL doesn't mean they can't make sense by their own rules.
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Read the Codex again, they have Assault Marines as Troops choices.
I'm pointing out what the BA were like to make it clear to you that the whole "speed"/assault marines thing is a recent development
of their bloodlust. That's why the quotes are taken from the
3rd edition codex.
If you're going to bring up the history of the BA, which you
did (""Faster" has always been a part of the Blood Angels archetypical presentation."), I am going to use that history to refute your statement.
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So you "fanwank" a bit and say "oh well the lucifer engines tend to burn out fast so they have to replace them after every battle and that's why other Chapters don't use them" or something if you don't like the background.
A ) The background doesn't say that. In fact, it's strongly implied that the engines
are stable over the long-term.
B) If they do that, then you shouldn't be giving them a +5cm to speed because they're unstable, and thus will, on average, probably break down a lot more than most Rhinos, which will slow them down...
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Their background theme may be "blood", but ask any Warhammer 40,000 player to describe how the Blood Angels army plays, and they will tell you "Blood Angels focus on Assault Marines and are the fastest Marine army".
Firstly, no they won't. They'll tell you the Blood Angels focus on assault. Because any player with any sense will tell you what the army's generally like, not what it's like this particular codex,
because that can change.
Secondly, they would not have told you the BA were the fastest in Second Edition or 3rd edition, and possibly not even in 4th edition. Because they weren't. They might not even now, since all the Codices can take bike armies, which are just as fast. They might tell you that they're fast, or that they have fast vehicles. But they're not the fastest.
You said that the speed was what the BA had always been about. It isn't.
Furthermore, I do not see why their company-level-plus playstyle must be identical to their skirmish-level playstyle. That's simply ludicrous.
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I do not develop army lists that reflect what Warhammer 40,000 used to look like in the past. That's the preserve of Netepic.
What the hell's the point of making army lists if they're just going to be derivations of the current Codex? The playerbase of Epic is
not focused on the current edition of 40K. It's rather scattered across a variety of editions. I play Epic in part because I can produce an army for a list and it will stay more-or-less usable. That is one of the great flaws in 40K. Why you desperately seek to embrace it, I'm not sure. But I don't see why you have to drag all the BA players down with you.
Furthermore, I'm not saying represent the past. I'm saying represent the most common presentation of BAs. They have five codices. If something is in one, it's not as important as something that is in two, or three, or four. It is not as iconically BA. Represent the ur-Blood Angels, not the 5th Edition Blood Angels. One is a lot less likely to change radically than the other.
Sometimes that'll be 2nd edition. Sometimes it'll be 5th. Sometimes it'll be both. But I think it'd be a better list.
